Thanks Nate. I was thinking that an A/FD just recently ran 5.11 on whatever % is allowed in the class. So, I thought if they could run 100%, that might yield a 4.98 or like that. I do agree that if they were allowed to run the big show technology, they would be 4.80's at 300. I remember about 20 years ago, Rick Henkleman ran a 5.36 in A/FD & it stunned everyone. The rules have changed so much over the years that it has taken all this time to get where they are now, ie: 5.11. Also thought that if blown alky could run w/o restrictions and A/FD same thing, then the A/FD would be quicker & faster. Well, my 2 cents. Heh