So the premise (according to the article) is that we need this stuff to generate interest? Sorry, there was plenty of drama for everyone without it. Still want to know what would happen to me if I sucker punched someone in the stands. Oh, they can’t kick me out, I’d miss the end of the race!
Commentary: Torrence DQ Would've Sent Message To Racers, Fans - "Raw Emotion Isn't Welcome Here"
Steve Torrence and Cameron Ferre overshadowed the NHRA Finals with their fiery first-round dust-up on Sunday. Regardless of which side you're on, their emotionally-charged incident was great for drag racing.www.dragzine.com
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TooTall999
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winr
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You are correct, he apologized to the cameras and what he has left of his fan base but his apology to Cameron in the pits was after he was awarded the championship. Watch the video... he's shaking Cameron's hand with the Medal around his neck...
Percboy
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I would have went with a different "rental" company...I`ve seen much better looking women fanning/ closing doors on PS cars on the starting line.
NHRA, ARE YOU LISTENING ???????
Now his gf is getting hated on?
He’s got a big hat?
HEMI6point1
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Commentary: Torrence DQ Would've Sent Message To Racers, Fans - "Raw Emotion Isn't Welcome Here"
Steve Torrence and Cameron Ferre overshadowed the NHRA Finals with their fiery first-round dust-up on Sunday. Regardless of which side you're on, their emotionally-charged incident was great for drag racing.
I usually like Dragzine's articles but I am going to have to disagree here.
They cite an incident back in 1979 that made NASCAR huge. But here's the kicker.... that's a *huge* reason why NASCAR's attendance and TV viewership is declining. Everyone blames their "car of tomorrow," restrictor plates etc. That whole shtick of a bunch of hilly billies going around in circles 300-400 times and fistfighting when they get into a wreck simply doesn't work for Millenials and Gen-Z'ers (That, and for NASCAR's older fans they don't like that a lot of the new drivers are "spoiled rich kids" from coastal states).
Do we really want our sport being viewed by Millenials and Gen-Z'ers as "a bunch of hilly billies going in a straight line and fistfighting when one doesn't like what went down on the starting line?" I think not!
I don't want our sport to mirror NASCRAP in that fashion.
No, man....it's all in the hat. The HAT.
Old-schooler here who enjoys NASCAR, too....but not because of the wrecks and most certainly not because of the fights. And millenials don't look at NASCAR fans as a bunch of hillbillies going round and round - they look at it with the same indifference as they do everything else that doesn't involve Facebook, Twitter or the latest smartphone. "If there ain't an app, it ain't crap."
Gotta admit, what happened with Torrence/Ferre is rare. Not that disagreements and occasional fisticuffs don't happen, but not often as public as this 'fight' was. It's not going to destroy the NHRA and most people will be fine with Torrence by next February. We live in a short-memory world.
HEMI6point1
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Luke Nieuwhof
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Not true, millennials value live experiences. It’s up to sports event promoters to provide that. Look at the way baseball games provide so much interaction for fans and make it about more than just guys swinging a bat at a ball.
I do believe millennials, like any other fans also need to believe that they too could be out there. That’s what we all do when watching sport, right? We dream of what it would be like to be out there. That is why racers like Ferre or Audrey Worm or the Russos are important, because they show the dream is still accessible.
That’s perhaps why there has been so much angst over the incident, because Ferre represented the ‘Everyman’. If fans feel too disconnected from the possibility of participating themselves, it isolates them from the experience.
Huge
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Luke, I'm just curious what does baseball promoters do to give baseball more interaction for fans? I live a couple miles from Anaheim stadium and I have been to 1 game in the past 30 years. Now Monster Supercross is a different story...I'm there for Anaheim 1 and Anaheim 2 every year.
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Steve Wayne
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NHRA's failure to come down hard on Top Fuel champ Steve Torrence speaks volumes: Boys and girls, have at it!
Just wondering whether the NHRA believes in its own Participant Conduct policy.
autoweek.com
Nice swipe at younger people. Ok, Boomer.
Oh, good grief; lighten up. It wasn't a swipe at young people; it's the absolute truth and a clear indication that times and tastes have changed...but to be clear, perhaps I should have clarified my statement with "many", "a number of", "quite a few", whatever, rather than leaving the impression of "All". I'm aware there are plenty new-gens out there, especially those who grew up in a racing family, who are keenly interested in drag racing. But if you don't believe the majority of the younger generation is far more interested in social media, social justice issues and smartphones than they are cars in general and race cars in particular, you need to get out more.
And my point stands. NASCAR isn't an organization based upon redneck hillbillies going in circles and fighting in the pits, causing millennials to abandon it in droves.
turbo ken
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When Steve was interviewed after the first round (before the incident with Cameron) he said something briefly about having to bury a young boy. Did some looking and found this on Facebook. While it doesn't excuse what he did, but with the way he can be emotional this was surely on his mind.
Bob K.
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Now THAT is funny as hell! However I don't think that is what put Steve over the edge. After Steve shook hands with Cameron, Cameron laughed at him and What did he say? I raced in the real old days in the top classes and had a guy who swung and missed me just because I beat him. I managed to calm him down, I didn't want to fight anyone, I just wanted to race.
Steve Wayne
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