Daddy Dave street outlaws

[Muddy]

I find it ironic that after all the negative discussions about the street outlaws and street racing in general that one of the 405 gets injured while racing on a sanctionted track.

 

[Just Paul]

He's lucky to be alive, and lucky nobody was killed (including himself) when the nitrous bottles went flying out. Some terrible workmanship on that car with everything that failed in the crash.

 

[vegasnitro]

It would have turned out differently had it happened on the street. The wall kept that wreck from being worse than it was and the quick access to an ambulance nearby got him to the hospital quick. So, if it had to happen, I am glad it happened on the track in a controlled environment. He also needs to beat the fire out of whomever welded his seat belt attachments and whomever did his nitrous setup.

 

[Nick Name]

It would have been a spin out if it had been on the street. Many of you have never seen a track without walls, Fremont, San Fernando, etc. Saw many cars spin out, or get off the track and back on.

In this particular case, the track was way more dangerous than the street would have been.

 

[vegasnitro]

It would have been a spin out if it had been on the street. Many of you have never seen a track without walls, Fremont, San Fernando, etc. Saw many cars spin out, or get off the track and back on.

In this particular case, the track was way more dangerous than the street would have been.

I disagree Jay. The rate he was travelling and the angle he was heading toward the wall, on the street, he would have wound up hundreds of feet off the street, or in a ditch, or wrapped around a tree or into a building. And there would have been no safety personnel or ambulance nearby. That car rolled 6 times, there was still lots of momentum/energy in that car, if there hadn't been a wall, he would have wound up in the pits/parking lot. And once you get it on grass, you are just along for the ride. There would have been no correction to get it back on the track or a lazy spin and safe stop. Had he had his safety program together, he would have walked away without a scratch on the track.

 

[sdwarf36]

My my. What a cute little tab to hook both of the shoulder harnesses to. Might have had a whole inch of weld holding it on. Whats wrong with just looping the belts around the shoulder bar? Along with the seat mount failing-and the nitrous bottle mount. Grudge racers don't need no tech!

 

[CrewMan]

First off....no matter what my opinion of these guys are or what they claim to represent or support...first and foremost I am glad the guy is OK. Wow....that was some nasty stuff. From what has been covered it sounds like he is pretty banged up but is going to be OK. He is very lucky it happened where it did and that there were people there to help him right away

Second....who in the hell put that piece of junk together? I know we all have our gripes over some of the mandated safety regulations imposed on us (seat belt expiration, etc), but what happened there is inexcusable. And if his car is like that...what are the others like?

Ugh.....

 

[Rajunz]

He built that car in his own shop. They showed it a few episodes back when he first started to build it.

 

[mw6789]

If he built that car himself, then he has nobody to blame but himself. What a shoddy piece of crap. And was there no tech inspection at the track? And a car running that fast should also have a chassis certification---did it have one? I am glad he will recover and wish him a full and speedy recovery. And hope in the future he will choose a better chassis builder.

 

[CrewMan]

100% agree on that Mike. You can't fix stupid.

Was he one of the bozo's on that show mocking all the "track racers"?

If he was, he got just bitch slapped by Karma....and hard.

Some of the stuff we have to abide by may seem crazy...and some of it may be...but much like with warning labels...if there is something saying it has to be this way...or don't this....then some moron has tried it.

 

[Muddy]

He seems to be a class act and doesn't run his mouth the way some on the show do. It's my understanding the car (chassis) passed tech and is in fact certified to 6.50 although some of the bolt on stuff may have expired SFI certifications or may not have certain equipment. I'm told it was welded by a certified welder although I have no direct knowledge of that. I would recommend those of you who are running vitrol out of your mouth find out the facts before you show your lack of knowledge.

As a side issue all the outlaw races on TV have safety staff, emergency staff on site and it's a very controlled environment. They don't allow anyone on the site under 18 and control all aspects of the production including testing. By the way I don't know those guys and have no personal interest in what they do but I do feel they are not treated fairly by many.

 

[rckymtn3]

As a side issue all the outlaw races on TV have safety staff, emergency staff on site and it's a very controlled environment. They don't allow anyone on the site under 18 and control all aspects of the production including testing. By the way I don't know those guys and have no personal interest in what they do but I do feel they are not treated fairly by many.

They don't portray the "street racing" as you have stated it being carried out. They intentionally misrepresent themselves and embrace the "outlaw" part whether they actually operate that way or not. They glamorize the illegal aspect, and deserve any negative connotations their show's name and production might incur from more respectable and responsible people in the racing community and those outside of it as well.

Sure they are being treated fairly.

If you dance around your front yard in your purple silk dress on a Saturday, it's quite fair for your neighbors to laugh at you, and not take you seriously from then on.

 

[Litefoot]

Any links to the story or video

 

[Muddy]

They don't portray the "street racing" as you have stated it being carried out. They intentionally misrepresent themselves and embrace the "outlaw" part whether they actually operate that way or not. They glamorize the illegal aspect, and deserve any negative connotations their show's name and production might incur from more respectable and responsible people in the racing community and those outside of it as well.

Sure they are being treated fairly.

If you dance around your front yard in your purple silk dress on a Saturday, it's quite fair for your neighbors to laugh at you, and not take you seriously from then on.

I don't disagree with some of what you've said but like most other shows on television it's enterainment and that's all it is. You obviously have ignored the disclaimers from the discovery channel at the start of the show or else you haven't watched the show. Anyone of average intelligence can readily see that while watching if they will pay attention. You think all of those cameras mounted to the sides of vehicles magically appear while farm truck is fishing, or someone is testing? Does anyone believe all the lights on race night are accidental along with the video replay at the start and finish lines? All of the sparks that come out during a pass are nothing more than stage props. Sorry but its true.

 

[CrewMan]

They may be staged props and I think most people get that the "reality" of it BS. Disclaimer or not...some bonehead somewhere is going to go do something stupid and say they saw Daddy Dave or whoever do it whether it be on that show or not. That being said, you can damn well guarantee there is someone in Glendora looking at this (and it is well beyond Nitromater folks) and guess what that means.....the people that do it right, do it safe, are gonna pay. And that sucks.

 

[Nick Name]

I disagree Jay. The rate he was travelling and the angle he was heading toward the wall, on the street, he would have wound up hundreds of feet off the street, or in a ditch, or wrapped around a tree or into a building. And there would have been no safety personnel or ambulance nearby. That car rolled 6 times, there was still lots of momentum/energy in that car, if there hadn't been a wall, he would have wound up in the pits/parking lot. And once you get it on grass, you are just along for the ride. There would have been no correction to get it back on the track or a lazy spin and safe stop. Had he had his safety program together, he would have walked away without a scratch on the track.

Might have, but he wasn't that far out when he lost. I believe it would have spun out and scrubbed off speed very fast. My shop is at a race track that has no walls at most of it, and we see cars leave the race track quite often, and you would be surprised how quickly they come to a stop.

 

[vegasnitro]

He seems to be a class act and doesn't run his mouth the way some on the show do. It's my understanding the car (chassis) passed tech and is in fact certified to 6.50 although some of the bolt on stuff may have expired SFI certifications or may not have certain equipment. I'm told it was welded by a certified welder although I have no direct knowledge of that. I would recommend those of you who are running vitrol out of your mouth find out the facts before you show your lack of knowledge.

As a side issue all the outlaw races on TV have safety staff, emergency staff on site and it's a very controlled environment. They don't allow anyone on the site under 18 and control all aspects of the production including testing. By the way I don't know those guys and have no personal interest in what they do but I do feel they are not treated fairly by many.

I will agree he seems to be a nice guy and like others have said, I am VERY glad he is OK. Reality TV show nonsense or not, I never want to see anyone get hurt. The cage did have a chassis cert, and it is visible in the video. The cage inside the car did it's job very well. It was the stuff bolted/welded to the cage that failed. Having tech'd a few "street" events on a sanctioned drag strip myself, I can tell you that we basically make sure the chassis has the cert sticker (if the car has a cage, it has to be current), the seat is bolted in properly, the battery is bolted down, it is not leaking anything, the belts/harness are not expired, that they have a SA2010 (or newer) helmet, door bar padding, padding around the helmet area and turn them loose. I would have checked the N2O bottle to make sure it was current. I don't believe it is against the rules to have your seat belts welded to a tab on the cage (though having them wrapped around the bar is much preferred), so blaming the tech inspector (as some have) is not germain to the situation, particularly when you are going to be overruled by the track/promoter 99/100 times anyway. The safety violation has to be EGREGIOUS to get turned away on a "street" night.

 

[Jimbo]

When I watch the show it all seems like I am watching wrestling and everything is very staged including all the betting that takes place.

Jim Hill
http://www.nostalgicracingdecals.com

 

[Nitro Cane]

I still have not seen any good video of this. All I see on you tube is some Yahoo with a cell phone camera filming more of the burnout than the lap. Anyone got a link to a better video ?

 

[my friends call me Zappy]

Might have, but he wasn't that far out when he lost. I believe it would have spun out and scrubbed off speed very fast. My shop is at a race track that has no walls at most of it, and we see cars leave the race track quite often, and you would be surprised how quickly they come to a stop.

I agree Jay. I'm old enough to recall no track side walls. I've seen many cars leave the racing surface and slide safely to a stop. In this case I agree the wall kept the car on the track, and The high traction (of the surface) added to the barrel rolls. On grass he may well have slid on his side or roof.

And btw the show does have ambulance on site too.