Holy crap - Big Changes at $chumacher Racing

#16 08-04-2007, 01:02 PM

I'm quite surprised Zippy is still on Don's payroll. It just makes good sense to release an employee of his importance when given notice he will be leaving.

#17 08-04-2007, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Spackman

I'm quite surprised Skippy is still on Don's payroll. It just makes good sense to release an employee of his inportance when given notice he will be leaving.

I definately agree. When an employee tells you he is leaving to go to your main rival, you do not continue to allow them access to your most vital information. The stakes are high and I think everyone can figure out what Force's motives are here so it is time to wish Zippy best of luck pursuing his dream and to change the locks behind him.

#18 08-04-2007, 04:30 PM

From a distance (which is where I sit in such matters) This appears to take on the same view as Shawn Carlson "staying on the payroll, in an engineering position" Whit Bazemore "remaining with DSR for the remainder of his contract" etc. etc. etc.
There could also be a trust issue -- believing Mike's allegiance might now be with JRF, could he trust him to give the Oakley car and Scelzi his very best, especially in the wake of the countdown?
I know very little about Zippy yet I'd absolutely trust him to give them his very best to the bitter end but it appears Don feels the need to make the move sooner than later? I don't question his decision but I fear it will cost some performance as the changing of the guards is undergone.
I wish Todd and Phil the best as they are both hard working, up-and-comers.

#19 08-04-2007, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron Bertram

I definately agree. When an employee tells you he is leaving to go to your main rival, you do not continue to allow them access to your most vital information. The stakes are high and I think everyone can figure out what Force's motives are here so it is time to wish Zippy best of luck pursuing his dream and to change the locks behind him.

Yea........Zippy is probably tempted to snoop around pick-up vital information and "trade secrets"

#20 08-04-2007, 05:07 PM

Don did the right thing for ALL involved, I can imagine what would be said here if the car Zippy is tuning loses a round to a JFR car. Let it go, Don did.

This is why JF wanted a lid on it.

#21 08-04-2007, 06:26 PM

Jf wanted a lid on for only one reason... it's PR value and his ability to slant it anyway he wished.

#22 08-04-2007, 06:49 PM

Man this just REALLY sucks for the MTS team!!! I dont understand how you take the "hottest" race car competing and take away it's braintrust to save a team who after this season is not for sure of it's own future!!! My question is why Todd O over Phil? Todd has a VERY WELL oiled machine right now with his tuning ability making adjustments...why "screw" it up?

#23 08-04-2007, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Spackman

Jf wanted a lid on for only one reason... it's PR value and his ability to slant it anyway he wished.

Won't be wearing a JFR shirt any time soon there Don?

#24 08-04-2007, 07:35 PM

http://http://competitionplus.com/in...=3538&Itemid=6

#25 08-04-2007, 09:09 PM

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I will not be surprised if Zip is gone after Sonoma. I would have let him go before the race started and let Ace/Okahara tune the car

This is what I thought should happen back before Sonoma. I think its the best move considering the situation.

#26 08-04-2007, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Wayne Dirks

http://http://competitionplus.com/in...=3538&Itemid=6

Torco Racing Fuel's Competition Plus.com - Drag Racing's Internet Magazine - NEFF "REASSIGNMENT NOT WHAT I WANTED"

I think that is the link you tried to post
Assuming so, I think this is the right decision for Shoe to make. Scelzi is in the count, he is being fair to Neff allowing him to test with JFR and trusting him to keep the brain trust on the team at least until the end of the year.
All in all, I think all parties in this change handled it in a genuine fair and resonable manner. Kudos to everyone involved. (yes, that includes NHRA and scoop for reporting it fairly)

#27 08-05-2007, 11:01 AM

Just so there is no misunderstanding, Torco's CompetitionPlus.com only reported the facts with direct quote attribution from the parties involved and was not part of a rumor parade regarding the Neff to Force incident. What we reported was fact prior to the official press release being offered to the media.

Yes, we post rumors because that is what our readers ask for. But, with that said, when we have enough info to classify as a legit rumor through solid souces, we post it there until we can talk to the parties involved. In that time, we are vague (often leaving out names) until our fact checking is complete. Then it becomes a news item and names are named.

I applaud Rob on his decisions to hold items until the appropriate time but we do that on a regular basis as well. We've even lost on breaking stories (to them and others) just because we follow that principle. That's just doing the right thing and we don't deserve a pat on the back for that.

I'm not saying we've been perfect in the past, but perfection is certainly a goal we strive for and will always do as long as we are in this business.

NHRA.com does a great job of promoting the NHRA. Phil Burgess and Rob Geiger do a good job of making sure the NHRA is promoted but let's call it what it is -- it's the propoganda arm of the NHRA. It's supposed produce the best stories it can to promote NHRA in a positive light all the time.

What it's not supposed to be -- is in competition with it's supporting cast of publications that spend tens of thousands of dollars annually in personnel and travel expenses to cover their races. Sometimes that gets lost in the shuffle.

Bobby Bennett

#28 08-05-2007, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Becker

Torco Racing Fuel's Competition Plus.com - Drag Racing's Internet Magazine - NEFF "REASSIGNMENT NOT WHAT I WANTED"

I think that is the link you tried to post
Assuming so, I think this is the right decision for Shoe to make. Scelzi is in the count, he is being fair to Neff allowing him to test with JFR and trusting him to keep the brain trust on the team at least until the end of the year.
All in all, I think all parties in this change handled it in a genuine fair and resonable manner. Kudos to everyone involved. (yes, that includes NHRA and scoop for reporting it fairly)

Thanks Brian; technology hates me!!!

I thought Mike's comments were very on the mark. I don't like the trend of splitting up a well running team when they're running well. I do however understand!

Echo the kudos to all.

#29 08-05-2007, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby Bennett

Just so there is no misunderstanding, Torco's CompetitionPlus.com only reported the facts with direct quote attribution from the parties involved and was not part of a rumor parade regarding the Neff to Force incident. What we reported was fact prior to the official press release being offered to the media.

Yes, we post rumors because that is what our readers ask for. But, with that said, when we have enough info to classify as a legit rumor through solid souces, we post it there until we can talk to the parties involved. In that time, we are vague (often leaving out names) until our fact checking is complete. Then it becomes a news item and names are named.

I applaud Rob on his decisions to hold items until the appropriate time but we do that on a regular basis as well. We've even lost on breaking stories (to them and others) just because we follow that principle. That's just doing the right thing and we don't deserve a pat on the back for that.

I'm not saying we've been perfect in the past, but perfection is certainly a goal we strive for and will always do as long as we are in this business.

NHRA.com does a great job of promoting the NHRA. Phil Burgess and Rob Geiger do a good job of making sure the NHRA is promoted but let's call it what it is -- it's the propoganda arm of the NHRA. It's supposed produce the best stories it can to promote NHRA in a positive light all the time.

What it's not supposed to be -- is in competition with it's supporting cast of publications that spend tens of thousands of dollars annually in personnel and travel expenses to cover their races. Sometimes that gets lost in the shuffle.

Bobby Bennett

You know, Bobby, it seems like you're always having to defend what you do, and personally, I get tired of it. Your product is as good, and in most cases, much better than anything going. Rumors are rumors and you do a tremendous job of tastefully reporting them.

The bottom line is, you put out an awesome product and you don't need to defend anything. Keep on truckin', brother.

Sean D

#30 08-05-2007, 01:21 PM

Scoop and Bobby, I read most everything you both publish. I find you both invaluable to our sport and I don't give a rat's behind who breaks any story since I prefer to hear "just the facts, ma am." You are both top-shelf in bringing us those facts and I thank you both for it.

Your positions on some matters are clearly different in ways anyone closely involved in our sport can understand. As we consider where your paychecks come from it explains a great deal about your take on a story. Please keep up the great work you do. You're our eyes and ears on the inside of this sport. We can't go where you go and hear what you hear and we thank you for sharing your inside scoop.

Thank you for all you do for us.

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