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07-31-2007, 12:58 PM
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GA Vs Glidden
First of all, just wanted to congratulate Greg and the Ken "Black curtain" boys on there 50th. What I found interesting is how quickly greg has achieved 50 in only 5 or 6 seasons. What I found even more interesting was the stat they showed comparing Anderson ,Glidden, and Johnson. Bob G won his 50th somewhere around his 138th start, way before either Greg or WJ. I’m willing to bet if Glidden had as many chances to win back in the day, as they do now, Even John Force wouldnt be anywhere near catching him.
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07-31-2007, 01:39 PM
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Re: GA Vs Glidden
I beleive you are correct. One season in the late 70's he won 7 of 8 races, just think if there were 23 races back then.
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07-31-2007, 02:06 PM
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Re: GA Vs Glidden
Bob Glidden parked a race car that was undefeated in competition, I don't know if anyone else will ever be able to say that.
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07-31-2007, 02:27 PM
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Bob Glidden parked a race car that was undefeated in competition, I don't know if anyone else will ever be able to say that.
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It will NEVER happen again because the competition is so unbelievably tough now in Pro Stock. I am not knocking Glidden, his work ethic is legendary, but late 70's - early 80's Pro Stock was generally weak after the top 3 or 4 qualifiers. The field was spread by several tenths, and you could generally cruise to the semi's if you were Glidden. It was basically Glidden, WJ, the Grump and Lee Shepherd and that was about it. Some interlopers came along every now and then and won some races, but generally speaking, those 4 guys were trading all the wins.
Now, it is as hard to qualify as it is to go rounds (sometimes harder). Fields are spread by a few hun. No cruisin' to the semi's anymore, you gotta be on top of your setup AND your driving game every time you stage the car, or you are going on the trailer.
I do agree that if there were 23 races per year back then, Glidden would have put the record out of reach (just like Richard Petty did back when NASCAR sanctioned over 50 races a year), BUT IMO, it is harder to win 50 now than 100 back then.
I will repeat for those that have comprehension issues, I am not knocking Glidden, the man is a legend and is a deserving winner and multi-time champion, I am just illustrating how far the sport has come in terms of competition.
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07-31-2007, 03:19 PM
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excellent post chris. glidden is awesome in hisdays, maybe #1 pro stock guy of all time but you have to give it to greg for 50 wins so fast in an era where its hard as hell to just qualify never mind going rounds up against the drivers like, jeggie, dave connely, allen johnson, stanfield, ritcihe stevens ect ect. pro stock is more competitive than ever thats why to me its more amazing what greg is doing now than back in the day.
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07-31-2007, 03:25 PM
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I read elsewhere that if you took Glidden's winning percentages and applied it to today's schedule he would have won roughly 183 races.
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07-31-2007, 04:34 PM
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...............It was basically Glidden, WJ, the Grump and Lee Shepherd and that was about it...............
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.............and we can't forget Frank Iaconio. He won his share in that time, but yeah, it was pretty much all Glidden. Had Lee Shepherd not passed away, things may have been a little tougher.
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07-31-2007, 05:11 PM
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Re: GA Vs Glidden
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............. Had Lee Shepherd not passed away, things may have been a little tougher.
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Amen, brother!
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07-31-2007, 07:49 PM
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Re: Glidden vs. Shepard
We were at Green Valley Race City in Dallas in the early 80's and was able to watch Bob and Lee go at it during time trials, they set the P. S. record 5 times in one afternoon, I don't remember who left the strip with the record but it was fun to watch, it was before 500 inch motors so they were running 8.20's @ 170 or so.
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07-31-2007, 09:03 PM
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We were at Green Valley Race City in Dallas in the early 80's and was able to watch Bob and Lee go at it during time trials, they set the P. S. record 5 times in one afternoon, I don't remember who left the strip with the record but it was fun to watch, it was before 500 inch motors so they were running 8.20's @ 170 or so.
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Mark that is one of my grandpa's favorite stories to tell.
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07-31-2007, 10:02 PM
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And just think how many races Bob could have won if he did not have NHRA adding weight to his Ford combo every other week......
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08-01-2007, 06:33 AM
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excellent post chris. glidden is awesome in hisdays, maybe #1 pro stock guy of all time but you have to give it to greg for 50 wins so fast in an era where its hard as hell to just qualify never mind going rounds up against the drivers like, jeggie, dave connely, allen johnson, stanfield, ritcihe stevens ect ect. pro stock is more competitive than ever thats why to me its more amazing what greg is doing now than back in the day.
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Jeff...I totally agree. I realize there are people who don't support Greg, but his record during the most competitive era in class history speaks for itself. He simply has accomplished things no one else can. The entire class is chasing the Summit cars. There's a new Professor in Pro Stock and his name is...Greg Anderson!
That said....I sure hope Allen Johnson takes him out in the countdown! 
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08-01-2007, 07:36 AM
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Though I truly respect what the summit team has accomplished, I look back at people like Glidden, Grump and WJ with amazment considering they were a one man band. They did it all. Notice I did not include RM w/ Lee Shepard because that was always a group effort. No disrespect intended because I thought Lee was one of the nicest and skilled people I have ever had the privledge to know.
To do what these people did without all the tools and information available now is remearkable.....
BTW: Another person from the era or just before was Don nicholson.
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08-01-2007, 08:44 AM
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Excellent point. Those guys were soldiers that did it by themselves with the help of their wives and kids. We all watched the Glidden kids grow up on TNN.
Back to Greg Anderson, I still believe he's accomplished more, during the most competitive era in the class. No matter how much the rest of the class targets him, he still maintains a competitive edge on them. It's one team versus the field...
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08-01-2007, 09:09 AM
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Re: GA Vs Glidden
i think in 10-15 years jeggie will have his mark up there with anderson, glidden, johnson, etc. he's really only getting "started."
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