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Re: GA Vs Glidden
If the 70s had 15-20 events, Garlits, Shirley and Prudhomme would have added to their total too. My favorite Glidden year was 79, after being factored out of a Ford, switch brands and kick more butt.
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i think in 10-15 years jeggie will have his mark up there with anderson, glidden, johnson, etc. he's really only getting "started."
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With Jeggies driving abilites in multiple classes I'd say he already ranks as one of the top over all drivers along with Rampy and Fletcher.
I suppose the great thing about debating different generations is that there really is no right answer. Yes Anderson wins are coming when the fields are deeper but Glidden won with a lot less funding and he didn't have a huge team either. Anderson has enjoyed several hundreths advantage over a tight field with all the teams knowing most of the same tricks, Glidden used to have a tenth on the field in the days as the class was developing and more creativity was allowed, he helped lead the way. Which is more impressive? Who knows. I like looking at race win % and round %. Either way both of these guys are great...although being a life long WJ fan I am not allowed to root for either one
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08-01-2007, 10:41 AM
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Jeff...I totally agree. I realize there are people who don't support Greg, but his record during the most competitive era in class history speaks for itself. He simply has accomplished things no one else can. The entire class is chasing the Summit cars. There's a new Professor in Pro Stock and his name is...Greg Anderson!
That said....I sure hope Allen Johnson takes him out in the countdown! 
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actually i'd like to think of it as a dual professorship - greg and jason.
these two could field competitive teams on their own, but together
with KB Racing dare i say they've almost redifined the class.
i would guess as the team originated with greg, he gets their #1 engine,
jason probably the #2, then greg #3 and then jason #4, so if both
chassis are performing equally, i think this is why greg usually has the edge.
i am certainly a fan of theirs.
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08-01-2007, 11:14 AM
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They always leave out all the divisional races these guys did back in the days before national events only counted for points. How many point meets did Bob G win?
I think to get a complete picture for the 70's & 80's guys you need to add point meets + NHRA + IHRA + AHRA national events together to get a complete picture of how many races Bob did win.
Remember todays guys only run 23 races a year.
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actually i'd like to think of it as a dual professorship - greg and jason.
these two could field competitive teams on their own, but together
with KB Racing dare i say they've almost redifined the class.
i would guess as the team originated with greg, he gets their #1 engine,
jason probably the #2, then greg #3 and then jason #4, so if both
chassis are performing equally, i think this is why greg usually has the edge.
i am certainly a fan of theirs.
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They really have "re-defined" the class. They've made every team work harder, invest more time and resources and have made every one better at what they do. All this at a time when the class is more difficult to compete in than at any point in it's history. Amazing!
Please know, I'm not necessarily a fan of the Summit cars, but I certainly can respect their abilities and record.
I just wish they drove Dodges! I think these boys could make a Studebaker fly!
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08-01-2007, 11:22 AM
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i think in 10-15 years jeggie will have his mark up there with anderson, glidden, johnson, etc. he's really only getting "started."
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Best pure driver ever? Easy! Jeggie....
I remember when Warren used to make fun of Jeggie making "400 passes a week" on his practice tree. Now who's laughing...?
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08-01-2007, 11:56 AM
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Bob Glidden won 32 NHRA points meets between 1968 and 1981 including 5 in Super Stock and 1 in Stock (Indy 1968).
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08-01-2007, 12:45 PM
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They always leave out all the divisional races these guys did back in the days before national events only counted for points. How many point meets did Bob G win?
I think to get a complete picture for the 70's & 80's guys you need to add point meets + NHRA + IHRA + AHRA national events together to get a complete picture of how many races Bob did win.
Remember todays guys only run 23 races a year.
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Great point Wayne. Its like comparing apples and oranges.
They are both great drivers, but I will have to give the edge to BG for being a one man "TEAM"
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08-01-2007, 06:20 PM
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Re: GA Vs Glidden
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Best pure driver ever? Easy! Jeggie....
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Pure driver......not too sure about that one. Jeg is great, and I am taking nothing away from him.
Since we are comparing different generations, I would say [and maybe I am partial  ] that the early pro stock guys may have had better "drivers" .
No shift lights, electric shocks, air shifters, Lenco, etc....Some guys used to actually leave the starting line by releasing a clutch pedal  , and not pushing/releasing a button on the steering wheel.
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08-02-2007, 07:47 AM
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Best pure drivers. I would think in Pro stock that conversation can not be had without mentioning Ronnie Sox
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08-02-2007, 07:57 AM
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The analogy I use every time this subject comes up is the Baseball home run record. Roger Maris hit 60 or 61 home runs in appox. 120 games. When Mark McGuire broke the record,he had 160+ games to do it,who was the home run champ? McGuire of course. Who has the most wins in P/S? I believe it's WJ with 96 wins,so he's the champ.
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08-02-2007, 10:41 AM
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Theres no doubt WJ is the homerun king with 96 and GA would need another 5 to 6 seasons of averaging 7 or 8 wins a year to catch up and that is indeed a very tall task to achieve. One thing GA has in his favor is Warren doesn’t seem to be adding to his total the last couple of years.
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08-02-2007, 11:06 AM
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The analogy I use every time this subject comes up is the Baseball home run record. Roger Maris hit 60 or 61 home runs in appox. 120 games. When Mark McGuire broke the record,he had 160+ games to do it,who was the home run champ? McGuire of course. Who has the most wins in P/S? I believe it's WJ with 96 wins,so he's the champ. 
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Roger Maris also played a 162 game season, he also hit his 61 home run in the last game of the season in the 4th inning.
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Roger Maris also played a 162 game season, he also hit his 61 home run in the last game of the season in the 4th inning.
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Correct, that is the genesis of the dreaded asterisk. Maris hit 61 home runs in a 162 game season, where as Babe Ruth had hit 60 home runs in a 154 game season. The baseball powers that be felt that the 8 extra games that Maris had to break the record should be reflected to preserve the integrity of the Babe's record. So by baseball edict, the record was always represented as 61*.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.
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08-02-2007, 02:04 PM
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Roger Maris also played a 162 game season, he also hit his 61 home run in the last game of the season in the 4th inning.
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I stand corrected and I don't where I got the 120 game season.  WJ is still the all time P/S win Champ isn't he?
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