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Re: Critchley/AMS lawsuit
This is no surprise what so ever. What is surprising is that no time was wasted at all in filing these lawsuits. This has become quite a big bruhaha with the press, especially in Tennessee where they are looking at every angle. They even came out with a story that AMS had to pay fines involving buisness conducted in Tennessee which nothing to do with this. Another story accuses Critch of going into hiding. Another one is should car and air shows be banned? You can see where it's all going. What an absolute horrible situation and mess this is for everyone.
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06-28-2007, 04:57 AM
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Re: Critchley/AMS lawsuit
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If the law suits don't put AMS out of business the lawyers to defend themselves will. NO Winner but the lawyers. Money will not bring back the lost souls and the families will hurt forever. NHRA I think only have a year to year contract with AMS. I am sure they would like to put some distance between themself and AMS at this point. I would not be shock to see Pro Mod go away unless somebody steps up to sponsor the whole thing like AMS has done.
The real shame is the people that work through AMS Staff Leasing that may lose their jobs when or if the company goes under. They had nothing to do with the cars or the event and yet they will also be a victim of this tragic event.
Very Sad.
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Good point Wayne. It would be wise of NHRA to cut all ties with AMS...immediately. Any association with AMS will link NHRA (indirectly) to the legal process. There is no value to NHRA to continue the limited series. It's a case of "guilt by association".
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06-28-2007, 05:01 AM
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Re: Critchley/AMS lawsuit
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AMS did not cause the accident...but they chose to display their colors w/ some people that caused the accident....
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And every single spectator chose to stand there and watch.
Yes Terry, life is all about choices. Everyone makes them. Everyone is accountable for the ones they make.
Why not just wait and see how all of this plays out before casting stones, eh?
I'm quite sure there will be enough blame to go around in this tragedy.
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06-28-2007, 05:07 AM
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Re: Critchley/AMS lawsuit
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And I'd be willing to bet that every other sponsor of an NHRA drag team is looking at this and thinking "Can we really be held liable for one of our sponsored driver's negligence, just because our company's name is on the side of the car?"
This could have far reaching implications to all future sponsorship contracts. Bottom line, if a race car with a large company's logo all over it gets into any liable situation, the lawers are going to go after the company with the biggest logo on the car first. What a shame...
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J.C....you are absolutely correct. This horrific event will reach deep in to our sport. Six lost lives is just an unbelievable tragedy.
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06-28-2007, 08:11 AM
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Re: Critchley/AMS lawsuit
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...Due to negligence (which will be proven) many lives were interrupted due to the events held by that non-profit charity....
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Negligence on whose part? The organizer for producing the event? The local authorities for not providing more barriers? The driver of the vehicle? The sponsors of said vehicle? The crew that turns the wrenches on the vehicle? The spectators for not staying where the police put them to begin with?
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If my children were there as guests and they were injured/killed by a drag race vehicle I would be pissed/saddened and go after each and everyone of those involved....And everyone here would probably do the same...
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I believe there's a bunch of folks here who would prefer to not be pigeon-holed by you into this litigious group, including me.
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And after seeing the video it is very obvious that the driver stayed on the throttle way too long.....
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Well thank you for the grand insight, omniscient one. You ever consider the possibility of the throttle hanging? If so and it was due to a failed part, how about a slice of liability pie for the manufacturer of the failed part? I mean, what the hell... as long as we're looking for someone to blame we may as well dig deep, right?
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When was the last time, if ever, Critchley crashed ON the drag strip?
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James - I can't be sure of his most recent incident prior to the Selmer accident but I know for sure he wrecked at Dragstock II at Carolina Dragway in Sept. 2005. I happened to be at that race.
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06-28-2007, 08:18 AM
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Re: Critchley/AMS lawsuit
Terry Jones you seem all to willing to sue anybody! And the fact that you Claim(?) to be a Drag racing fan should scare the Hell out of all of us! The next time I hear about some lawsuit involving this sport I'm expecting to see your name on it.... 
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06-28-2007, 08:27 AM
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Re: Critchley/AMS lawsuit
What's ridiculous are the personal opinions, including those stating what others here would do, stated as fact. I don't know why I even got out of bed this morning without calling Terry first to see if it was okay to do so. I guess I'm just lucky to be alive!
The guy doesn't bother to apologize or even reply when you specifically point out where he's full of it, so he's gotta have something psychological going on. Why would you not feel humiliated?
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06-28-2007, 12:09 PM
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Re: Critchley/AMS lawsuit
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Terry Jones you seem all to willing to sue anybody! And the fact that you Claim(?) to be a Drag racing fan should scare the Hell out of all of us! The next time I hear about some lawsuit involving this sport I'm expecting to see your name on it.... 
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Didn't he say his wife was a lawyer?
If so,,,that's all you need to know.
He probably was supporting the guy in DC that was sueing 54 mil for the cleaners losing his pants
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06-28-2007, 12:12 PM
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Re: Critchley/AMS lawsuit
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Didn't he say his wife was a lawyer?
If so,,,that's all you need to know.
He probably was supporting the guy in DC that was sueing 54 mil for the cleaners losing his pants
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I think he documented something like 1,400 hours working on that, or nearly 3/4 of a year if it was 40 hours a week. I've got principles and all but.....? 
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06-28-2007, 01:15 PM
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Re: Critchley/AMS lawsuit
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Nostradamus, you are.
It's time for a repeat of the story of Buzzz Miller breaking his back on a weightlifting device and only accepting that his medical bills be paid. Like he said, life is supposed to be painful.
There's just a line between accident, intentions, and the definition of negligence that's highly variable from person to person. I don't know how you determine that his life was worth $10 million. I always say that what determines the value of anything is what a seller and buyer agree on. What dollar amount would he have accepted if his son were still alive?
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Couldn't agree more. I got rear ended by a guy going 60 mph, I was doing 5mph, plus he was drinking at the time. I just accepted that my medical and car get paid for. I've always felt that I should earn everything I get in life. We all suffer sooner or later in our lives, we all go through a tragedy sooner or later. How should that entitle anyone to riches???
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06-28-2007, 01:53 PM
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Re: Critchley/AMS lawsuit
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To Wayne..."the real shame is the people who work through w/ AMS staff leasing may lose their jobs"
Are you friggen crazy????
LIVES were lost...who cares about AMS or Pro Mod employees @ this point...
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Are you always this stupid or was this a special occasion?
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06-28-2007, 04:57 PM
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Re: Critchley/AMS lawsuit
It is the Terry Jones's who clame to be drag racing fans, who will someday get the pits closed to spectators.
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06-28-2007, 05:20 PM
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Re: Critchley/AMS lawsuit
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It is the Terry Jones's who clame to be drag racing fans, who will someday get the pits closed to spectators.
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I'm not defending Terry here, but what does closing the pits have to do with this? I've never seen a wide open burnout in the pits...
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06-28-2007, 05:25 PM
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Re: Critchley/AMS lawsuit
Johnny M.,
I have seen it and lived thru the aftermath. It led a major Los Angeles paper to headline the story about the Winternationals as "SLAUGHTERNATIONALS" in very large type.
Bad things can happen and sometimes will. Sad day, then and now.
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06-28-2007, 05:34 PM
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Re: Critchley/AMS lawsuit
With the way things are going people in ten years will be waiting to get hit by a car just to sue them...
Not that any single life isn't invaluable, but six people died from this... Six people... thats 4 less than ten (just in case you are bad at math  )... Think of Katrina: Hundreds... 9/11: Thousands... Hiroshima: Hundreds of thousands... Starvation: Countless millions... Can this even be measured with the word "tragedy" next to these events??
I don't think blame should be put on anyone as no one intentionally did this... The idea of the father suing is somewhat rediculous... His daughter was fifteen I believe which means HE is responsible for her decisions... One could just as easily put blame on him for letting her go to this place without making sure it was safe for her (which he clearly thinks he is qualified to do as he is suing for money and also to check the safety for the next one)... That money can't buy a daughter but I suppose since he is "going for justice" he will of course put all that money back into the community to buff up safety right? Or maybe a convertible pulling into a mansion will make losing a daughter easier... *this is not an attack on the man personally, he will suffer much I am sure*
I hope those six are at peace, but all the media money being spent looking at this "incident" could really save hundreds somewhere else... Puts things in perspective to me...
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