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Old 06-20-2007, 04:12 PM
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Surely you are kidding?? It is only you who apparently associates the accident with the class as a whole.
You could be right Brian, but I'll bet ya dollars to donuts that NHRA turns away from this class. There may be some smaller bodies that still book the class in, but you won't see top tier organizations touch this class for a while. My guess is it'll be relegated to secondary tracks and events.

As for the previous comparisons of my prediction with other predictions of the demise of Top Fuel and Funny Car...that certainly wasn't me. Top Fuel and Funny Car are the core classes of our sport and were never in danger of going away. Pro Mod on the other hand has never been a marque class at NHRA.

Remind me of my prediction a year from now and if i'm wrong, I'll be a man and admit it.
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Old 06-20-2007, 04:30 PM
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I see that you are not very familiar with the Pro Mod class as a whole, thus explaining your position. Saying NHRA will go away from Pro Mod is not stretch, as they are hardly associated with them as it is. NHRA/AMS is a very small portion of the Pro Mod world.

The drag racing world is much bigger than NHRA. To say that the "top tier" organizations won't touch the class. What are those organizations in your eyes?? ADRL is the premiere organization for Pro Mod, and the class has been a cornerstone of IHRA for many many years. The heart & soul of Pro Mod is independent races. Again, NHRA doesn't even recognize the class. Trust me, Pro Mod can survive without them.

And this incident will MOST DEFINATELY not be the beginning of the end as you put it.

If Clay Millican had driven through the front door of Graceland, would that have been the end of Top Fuel?
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Old 06-20-2007, 04:55 PM
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i was just wondering, but i dont think that people as a whole in nhra or ihra or what ever sanction you run understand what this does to us as a group. No of course not all racers do things of this nature, but it does leave a lasting impression in the minds of corporate America in wich we spend our time looking for funding. And without the proper funding there is no sanction for the cars to run. A good example, look at even knoll, if that was his car and we know the ramifications that could come of this display, he could stand to lose his company and then there would be a giant hole to fill and that doesnt come easy. I cant thank the companys enough for all the backing that we all benefit from in one way or another. The disagreements are in some ways all valid but we have to look to the future and get back the great name and reputation of the sport we love, and that goes towards all racing sanctions.
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Old 06-20-2007, 05:06 PM
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Re Evan Knoll sponsoring half the Top Alcohol field. Yes Evan does sponsor a large element of Top Alcohol, however, most, if not all, sponsored by him would still be running Top Alcohol with out him. GRANTED, NOT at the same level they do now. As has been said many times here, THANK YOU Evan!

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Old 06-20-2007, 05:10 PM
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Gage, good points.

I do not discount that this definately damages the image of drag racing as a whole to the general public.
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Old 06-21-2007, 04:01 AM
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With the horrible tragedy in Tennessee, I doubt you'll see anyone adding Pro Mods to their shows. If anything, they'll be fewer events that have them participate. Once the legal process gets rolling there won't be many tracks that'll book them in. This very well may be the beginning of the end of Pro Mod...
I can't believe this thread I started - that had NOTHING to do with the F-ing Selmer incident - has created what might be the most ridiculous statement I've seen on this board!
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Old 06-21-2007, 05:43 AM
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About 5 years back an NHRA big wig said the NHRA would only be 4 classes. TF,FC.PS and PSB. I just can't remember who it was that said this and if he's the same guy who'll be running NHRA Pro. If they decide (no reason to believe this is going to happen) to have Pro only events you would think they would need another class or 2 to fill the time. Maybe PM and TFH? Or maybe Pro Jet eliminator? Just kidding!
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Old 06-21-2007, 10:13 AM
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You could be right Brian, but I'll bet ya dollars to donuts that NHRA turns away from this class. There may be some smaller bodies that still book the class in, but you won't see top tier organizations touch this class for a while. My guess is it'll be relegated to secondary tracks and events.


Remind me of my prediction a year from now and if i'm wrong, I'll be a man and admit it.

I guess you were unaware that Rockingham last year had to turn away fans per the fire marshall due to overcrowding for an ADRL PRO MOD event.
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Old 06-21-2007, 02:11 PM
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Not to be a dick but who goes to a NHRA event to see promods? You see a selected number of blown entries at nhra events..That is not promod racing..Go see one of events put on by the ADRL, WCPM, Outlaw Promods,TOMPA (Them TMW boys are bad ass) , and you will see true promod racing......
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Not to be a dick but who goes to a NHRA event to see promods? You see a selected number of blown entries at nhra events..That is not promod racing..Go see one of events put on by the ADRL, WCPM, Outlaw Promods,TOMPA (Them TMW boys are bad ass) , and you will see true promod racing......
That's one of the things I enjoy most about the Vegas and Dallas meets are the AMS series so, in at least those instances, I go to NHRA events in part to see PM. Of course I've also gone to South Carolina and Kennedale just to watch 'em too but I'm just funny that way.

At any rate, anyone that thinks the subject of PM as a pro category in NHRA either hasn't been or won't be discussed by these folks is kidding themselves. I fell pretty certain that the success of Kenny's deal hasn't gone unnoticed. Whether or not they'll actually appear in the "new" NHRA deal is a different question altogether but if they pursue it and they're able to come up with a formula that will allow a fairly even playing field for the N2O racers (and perhpas turbo racers) then I predict they'll have drivers flocking to their events. The fans will be sure to follow.
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Old 06-21-2007, 10:59 PM
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I can't believe this thread I started - that had NOTHING to do with the F-ing Selmer incident - has created what might be the most ridiculous statement I've seen on this board!
And who in corporate America is going to sponsor Pro Mod or a Pro Mod car now? Especially when all the lawsuits start, naming anyone whose name is on the car. I'm afraid this incident will have more impact than some of you think. I love Pro Mod but I'm having serious doubts about its future.
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Old 06-21-2007, 11:22 PM
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And who in corporate America is going to sponsor Pro Mod or a Pro Mod car now? Especially when all the lawsuits start, naming anyone whose name is on the car. I'm afraid this incident will have more impact than some of you think. I love Pro Mod but I'm having serious doubts about its future.
Pro Mod doesn't currently & never has relied on "corporate sponsorship"...

Many are painting pro mod with a broad stroke just as others are complaining about the media painting drag racing as a whole, based on one incident.
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Old 06-22-2007, 09:30 AM
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My guess, to get back to the original point of the thread, is that there would be no way HD would add another pro class. If I was a pure profit interested investor, I would want focus my attention and investment in building the interest in the existing classes and drivers. Adding a new class just means that you would have to promote and pay an additional class. Being that there are generally only so many people that can be put into the grandstands and that TV time is limited, this would cut into profit and further dilute the existing classes and drivers. I think that there will be an attempt to greatly increase the purse and bonuses also, so I highly doubt the extra money will be laying around to add a class anyways. Unless, tickets go to the $100 to $150 per day range then I think you will not see any new classes, maybe there will be less. Pro Mod is great, maybe my favorite class, but I think its future, if any, in the NHRA will be limited to a pay to play exhibition series like it is today.
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