View Poll Results: Should race teams be able to substitute a chassis in the event that it is damaged to
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06-06-2007, 04:05 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Re: Chassis Changes on Race Day
The chassis forms the basis of the entire car - the engine, wheels, body, wings are all add-ons.
If you crash at Daytona or in the Indy 500, or for Aussies at Bathurst, you're generally out of the race.
For mine, if the chassis is unable or unsafe to continue with once the race has started (after qualifying) then that's it, regardless of how many you've got sitting upstairs in the trailer.
Just my opinion.
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06-06-2007, 08:00 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: northern,Mn
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Re: Chassis Changes on Race Day
I like the idea of extending the "hit the wall you're disqualified" rule.This way it's a moot point whether to allow a backup car or not.You hit the wall,you're done...end of story.
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06-06-2007, 09:25 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Killen, AL
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Re: Chassis Changes on Race Day
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Originally Posted by David N Gawboy
My take on it is once you fire the motor for the first round on Sunday, THAT's the chassis you use for the rest of the event.
If the car contacts the wall or another car at any time, that's it. You don't use it again until it's been evaluated by the chassis builder, or a qualified representative of same.
The rule would be the same for everyone, from a Force sized juggernaut, down to the one chassis-one engine and a spare indie team.
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My thoughts exactly... I'm suprised this many people are of the opinion that you should be able to bring out a different car on raceday.... You race the car you qualified for that race. If that car is damaged, you don't race.
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06-06-2007, 09:35 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Bartlett, TN
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Re: Chassis Changes on Race Day
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Originally Posted by Dave Timmons
...... Extend the rule to past the finish line. Even if you cross the line first you are still out.....
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Would this apply in the final round also? If it is a rule it would have to. I can see it now. Driver A gets to the final round in Pomona needing to win the race to take the championship. He gets to the finals and his opponent goes up in smoke. Driver A goes through the lights, blows a tire, then makes a right turn into the wall. Sorry (insert favorite driver name here), you lost that race and the championship because you hit the wall after the race was over.
Once they cross the finish line the race is over. The winner then moves on to the next race in the event. I know it may be semantics, but last weekend in Topeka was an event with a series of races to determine a winner, not "a race". In any other form of motorsports, once you cross the finish line it doesn't matter what happens on the other side. I've seen multi-car crashes after the finsh-line in other forms of racing but the results did not change because of the crash. Proffesional drag racing is an acceleration contest. Whoever gets to the finish line first(legally) wins.
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06-06-2007, 09:57 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: JEREMIAH,KY
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Re: Chassis Changes on Race Day
I voted no. As far as a panel deciding if you can change chassis the more "judgment decisions" a sanctioning body has to make leds to inconsistencys, favoritism, and other things that you see plenty of people complaining about in another major form of motorsports. We have to let a major sponsored team change and run but the Joes smoke shack team cannot. We don't want to upset the major sponsor. Leave it the way it is. We don't need the politics.
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06-06-2007, 10:01 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Elgin, IL
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Re: Chassis Changes on Race Day
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Originally Posted by Dave Rowe
Would this apply in the final round also? If it is a rule it would have to. I can see it now. Driver A gets to the final round in Pomona needing to win the race to take the championship. He gets to the finals and his opponent goes up in smoke. Driver A goes through the lights, blows a tire, then makes a right turn into the wall. Sorry (insert favorite driver name here), you lost that race and the championship because you hit the wall after the race was over.
Once they cross the finish line the race is over. The winner then moves on to the next race in the event. I know it may be semantics, but last weekend in Topeka was an event with a series of races to determine a winner, not "a race". In any other form of motorsports, once you cross the finish line it doesn't matter what happens on the other side. I've seen multi-car crashes after the finsh-line in other forms of racing but the results did not change because of the crash. Proffesional drag racing is an acceleration contest. Whoever gets to the finish line first(legally) wins.
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Since the final is the last race the rule would not apply. It's all theory anyway. NHRA probably isn't going to change anything.
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06-06-2007, 01:03 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
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Re: Chassis Changes on Race Day
You guys are looking at this all wrong  If contact is made, MAKE the competitor go to a back-up chasis. Theirs or someone else's
I can see it now..........Joe Independant wins but hits wall. One of the juggernauts makes available their back-up chasis so Joe can run the other juggernaut that they are battling for the championship
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06-06-2007, 02:42 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Norfolk, Va
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Re: Chassis Changes on Race Day
Gee Mel, Sounds like what I said on the 17th post of JF Rant thread... great minds think alike...
but, with the safety gear changes, would Ashley/Guido pipes fit a Mike Dunn size dude?
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06-07-2007, 04:01 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Re: Chassis Changes on Race Day
1 Chassis 1 driver Simple. We don't need no more Eddie Hill Rules. Hitting the wall is not a reason to out a car. You cold Nick it. Like a few FC's did about 5 races ago.. no one was damaged bad enough to not to race. But in your way of thinking it would have DQ'd them and handed the win to the Loser.. DUH I think not. lol thats not drag racing.
Look every one is talking about safety and YES it's more important then racing. But if you don't feel your car or your B**L's are ready to drive then Don't.. there is always the couch and a remote waiting for you at home or in the trailer.
Ok so you say it's about the show. or TV or who's paying your bills. Ok good yes they should be a good reason to be there. But if your smart enough to ruin your car and hit a wall.. Then your Reward is LOTS of Replays on ESPN and the News and good photos in NHRA paper.
Ask Gilby and a bunch of other guys, if they come to the track with a 100% complete back up car in the rafters of the Trailer. I bet not. SOME guys can afford it and those are the guys who would want the rule changed.
BTW Good job Robert for keeping it from being worse. That was a Bad old JF fire from the past.. Worse one in a long time. Safety is #1
Lets ask Skuza
Last edited by Bob Dumont; 06-07-2007 at 04:04 AM.
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06-07-2007, 09:08 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
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Re: Chassis Changes on Race Day
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Originally Posted by Karl Stalcup
Gee Mel, Sounds like what I said on the 17th post of JF Rant thread... great minds think alike...
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Doh!! I hate it when that happens  Gonna have to get out the practice tree!
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06-07-2007, 09:22 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: deer park washington
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Re: Chassis Changes on Race Day
If you can afford to run top fuel, you can afford to have a spare chassis to use as a back up under those extreme conditions (i.e. crash, etc.) The bottom line is safety, and when those freak accidents/fires happen, it seems only fair that a team can replace the chassis. I bet if that happened to someone else's team, John would be the first to offer them his spare chassis to use. As far as the other types of racing not allowing it, they don't have 8000 hp strapped to there ass, and each sport handles things in a different way. Just my 2 cents.....
Todd Hoerner
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06-07-2007, 09:42 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: The "ZOO"
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Re: Chassis Changes on Race Day
If the chassis is in question in any way shape or form it should not be ran at all period. 75 minutes is not enough time to completely inspect the chassis completely 100%.
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