A-Fuel down to 96% Nitro

#16 04-23-2007, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin Brown

LOL..Alan...."Flippant"? No offense taken hell I don't want to pizz you off....I like you and feel you have done a bunch for the TAD/TAFC classes...I was merely pointing out my position is all....the word "Parity" will NEVER belong or exsist in any class of NHRA....Apples and Oranges....Let's chop em up and we will have fruit salad!

Sorry for being Obtuse.....oh and THANK YOU for standing behind our classes and for doing what you do....

Peace, KB

It's always been my opinion that drag racing isn't about parity. It's about who brought the baddest hot rod. The unfortunate side effect is that the guy with the baddest hot rod is generally the one with the deepest wallet. Pure genius just doesn't cut it anymore. If it did, you'd see the Brent Fannings and Don Sosenkas of the world winning the championships.

#17 04-23-2007, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Sherwood

Does that mean that because Gary Scelzi, Cruz Pedregon, Doug Herbert, Tim Wilkerson, Tony Shumacher, Darrell Russell, Doug Foley, Mike Strasburg, Cory Mac, Mike Ashley, and Jack Beckman DIDN'T learn in A-Fuel cars that they aren't properly trained???

No,but it just seems it would help develop more teams not just drivers,that are interested in the future jump to the pro fuel classes.

#18 04-23-2007, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Nancy Matter

TA/FC Won't happen, they've discussed it at length, but there were some very Serious Explosions that prohibit this from moving forward.

Randy G (IMO) may know more about this than I.

As for the TAD's and A/Fuels, I'm not a dragster girl (obviously), so I have no comment at all, it wouldn't be coming from any knowledge only opinion, however, I fully support the class, either blown or fuel, and always cheer for the winner no matter how it turns out.

As for better training ground, I believe that is Your Opinion Only, which you are entitled to. However, If you can Successfully Drive an Alky Flopper, KEY WORD SUCCESSFULLY (and I would have to include a clutch Pro Mod car in that), that is one of the Best ways for training to a nitro funny car, from my understanding (and I won't share names), there are some things harder about alky than the fuel, and vice versa, the most obvious to that, is everything happens a bit faster with the GO GO Juice.

Nancy...no disrespect toards the drivers,but I think(yes it's my opinion) that this may help develop teams interested in the jump to the pro nitro ranks.Only my opinion....

#19 04-23-2007, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Wilt

Atleast NHRA will still let them beef it up at LODRS in Denver

Chris,
No-one in thier right mind takes an A-Fueler to Denver...the mountain is the last refuge of the blown cars.

I think this is a move that is far overdue, but probably too late, TAD's are nearly extinct.

#20 04-23-2007, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by David Keech

Nancy...no disrespect toards the drivers,but I think(yes it's my opinion) that this may help develop teams interested in the jump to the pro nitro ranks.Only my opinion....

How does running an A-Fuel car prepare a team for TF? The Cost and tuning curve's completely different. Has any A-Fuel Tuner been successful as a TF/FC Crewchief?

#21 04-23-2007, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Sherwood

How does running an A-Fuel car prepare a team for TF? The Cost and tuning curve's completely different. Has any A-Fuel Tuner been successful as a TF/FC Crewchief?

Well, we agree on this one! But - it is the best training a driver can have for leaving the line at idle before stepping up. Brandon, Morgan, Ashley and a lot more!

#22 04-24-2007, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Brent Busch

NHRA needs to get their heads screwed on right and just allow the damn Gizmo blower.

Ding ding we have a winner, lets have parity by speeding up the class and keeping some alcohol in Top Alcohol.

S/F
D

#23 04-24-2007, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DeVallion Piper

Ding ding we have a winner, lets have parity by speeding up the class and keeping some alcohol in Top Alcohol.

S/F
D

I don't think that's the answer, they are already too fast for the typical divisional only type track.

#24 04-24-2007, 11:01 AM

How 'bout 0% since it's Top ALCOHOL Dragster. This has always bothered me. When did it become OK to just run another type of motor and fuel in that class? Did somebody just come in and say,"I don't want to run what the rules state, I think I'd rather run this", and NHRA just went with it? I'm just certainly glad they haven't made this legal for TAFC, which is certainly one of the best classes in the NHRA.

#25 04-24-2007, 11:12 AM

Goes all the way back to Pro Comp in the mid 70's.... A/FC was droped because of a couple of car that had .30 on everyone... including rails....

#26 04-24-2007, 11:25 AM

Injected fuel Fcs have been around forever, and I think were even an option for awhile after Pro Comp split up. I don't believe an NHRA A/FC ever had a huge advantage, because by the time the A/FD guys figured it out, A/FCs were no longer in the rulebook. I actually think that they were just left out after a period of no participation. However, in IHRA, they were allowed until Scott Weis went 5.70s a few years ago, and IHRA didn't want to have the same parity issue that they've had with PM. I know it's been beat to death, but I wish Injected Fuel FCs were an option, I think they'd be cool.

#27 04-24-2007, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by David Keech

I think it'd be better if they changed both TA/FC and T/AD to injected fuel classes...run 98% ...better training ground for the jump to T/F and AA/FC

After reading that I want to just bash my head into the monitor!!!

#28 04-25-2007, 05:43 PM

My 2 cents is that the powers to be do not want the Afuelers getting to close tho the Top Fuel class. Can you imagine if we still had a 2.8 lb weight break with a lock-up clutch on 100%? ... 4.80's @ 300 mph

#29 04-25-2007, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Gebhart

I don't think that's the answer, they are already too fast for the typical divisional only type track.

That's certainly part of it Billy. Watching Alky cars run low 6's - high 5's at Douglas WY was scary enough for me!

#30 04-25-2007, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug Watt

My 2 cents is that the powers to be do not want the Afuelers getting to close tho the Top Fuel class. Can you imagine if we still had a 2.8 lb weight break with a lock-up clutch on 100%? ... 4.80's @ 300 mph

I've always wondered what they'd do on 100% and with clutch and fuel management systems like Top Fuel. Sure would be damn neat to see!

A-Fuel down to 96% Nitro

A-Fuel down to 96% Nitro

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