Team Force continues to evaluate data; won't compete in Houston

#31 03-29-2007, 09:07 AM

I am actually surprised by this move. I know after heavy greif times I have to get back to doing what I do. Everybody handles things there own way though, I hope jfr is able to heal and able to figure out what happened

#32 03-29-2007, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by William Payne

I am no chassis expert and am not trying to be a keyboard crew chief but in one of the articles it states that they might have to make stronger chassis rails . Is there a specific reason that round tubing is used for the lower chassis rails on the fuelers because I know its strong being chromoly but if they used chrome moly box-section for that lower chassis rails would it be stronger or would that be a stupid idea?

I think box is only going to be stronger in four specific directions, and would tend to cave/flatten in all others. Round should have the same strength in all directions.

#33 03-29-2007, 10:39 AM

If anybody seen the pictures after the crash, the tire was still on the wheel. It appeared to have been deflated. In almost every tire failure the tire is completely shredded. John Force has made this decision to sit out because they want to make the cars as safe as possible. Obviously nothing like this has happened to a funny car in the past and hopefully never again.

#34 03-31-2007, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Wayne Darlington

Here is an excerpt from Jeff Burk's article today. I'll choose to trust his sources rather than your conclusions.

Got anything to say now?

::: Drag Racing Online ::: Columns - Agent 1320 - 3/30/2007

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RETRACTION
“In yesterday’s Burk’s Blast, I speculated that Eric Medlen had a chassis failure that caused his accident during testing at Gainesville. I now know without question that the team’s Murf McKinney chassis DID NOT fail prior to the tire failing. Further, I talked personally with Goodyear’s spokesman who told me that the tire was in Akron still being examined by their scientists and engineers to determine exactly why the tire failed.

“A spokesman from John Force Racing told DRO, ‘We have only begun evaluation and no summary has been made and testing is not completed.’ We regret any grief the statement may have caused JFR or McKinney Chassis.” -- Jeff Burk, Editor[3/30/2007]

also:

MEDLEN ‘SHAKEN’ TO DEATH

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In an interview on Sirius Satellite Radio NASCAR channel 128’s “Driver’s Seat” today (March 30) Dr. John Melvin, a Biomedical Research Scientist who has recently retired from General Motors and who developed a crash data recorder for Indy cars that measured acceleration data from crashes, said that he had examined the remains of Eric Medlen’s chassis along with members of the NHRA including Graham Light, and told interviewer John Kernan that probably Eric Medlen was “shaken” to death.

Graham Light, NHRA Sr. VP Racing Operations, passed that information along at the drivers meeting at Houston Raceway Park today. Dr. Melvin further stated in the interview that a lab at Wayne State University that specializes in investigating these kinds of crashes will be studying this crash starting next month.[3/30/2007]

I think you owe me an apology, or two.

#35 03-31-2007, 12:43 AM

Wayne, be grateful the photos of the chassis remains weren't taken by you with a Canon camera. This debate would take on a whole new dimension.

For the record, I fully support JRF for making the sacrifice in points to lay business aside long enough to research the cause of Eric's passing and do all they can to rectify such and to allow time for grieving, which may be the most important reason for timing out.

#36 03-31-2007, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron Dunlap

I think box is only going to be stronger in four specific directions, and would tend to cave/flatten in all others. Round should have the same strength in all directions.

That is 100% correct. Chassis tubing had nothing to do with this injury. There are people here who know what caused this - it does not appear that tire failure was the cause. I hope that JFR has passed what they know to other teams.

#37 03-31-2007, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Young

Chassis tubing had nothing to do with this injury. There are people here who know what caused this - it does not appear that tire failure was the cause.

That doesn't seem to square with this:

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I now know without question that the team’s Murf McKinney chassis DID NOT fail prior to the tire failing. Further, I talked personally with Goodyear’s spokesman who told me that the tire was in Akron still being examined by their scientists and engineers to determine exactly why the tire failed.

::: Drag Racing Online ::: Columns - Agent 1320 - 3/30/2007

#38 03-31-2007, 01:07 AM

Man..I'd just wait before this gets out of control.

Burk has already had to apologize for posting bullsh!t yesterday..let's not go the same route without knowing what the hell we're talking about..along these lines!!

RETRACTION

"We regret any grief the statement may have caused JFR or McKinney Chassis.” -- Jeff Burk, Editor[3/30/2007]

THAT COMES FROM SPECULATION WITHOUT HAVING THE FACTS.

So please..let us not go there.

#39 03-31-2007, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by David Williams

Man..I'd just wait before this gets out of control.

Burk has already had to apologize for posting bullsh!t yesterday..let's not go the same route without knowing what the hell we're talking about..along these lines!!

RETRACTION

"We regret any grief the statement may have caused JFR or McKinney Chassis.” -- Jeff Burk, Editor[3/30/2007]

THAT COMES FROM SPECULATION WITHOUT HAVING THE FACTS.

So please..let us not go there.

But when the Goodyear spokesman flat out says the tire failed that kinda removes speculation over what happened, right?

#40 03-31-2007, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Brent Busch

But when the Goodyear spokesman flat out says the tire failed that kinda removes speculation over what happened, right?

Well Brent..I do believe there's more to it than just tire failure..and I won't speculate.

#41 03-31-2007, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by David Williams

Well Brent..I do believe there's more to it than just tire failure..and I won't speculate.

I'm sure there's more to it also. But the spokesman for Goodyear says the tire failed and if anyone would know it would be them. Something caused it to fail and they better hurry up and figure out why before there's a 3rd death.

#42 03-31-2007, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Brent Busch

I'm sure there's more to it also. But the spokesman for Goodyear says the tire failed and if anyone would know it would be them. Something caused it to fail and they better hurry up and figure out why before there's a 3rd death.

BRENT STOP, PLEASE, JUST STOP.

#43 03-31-2007, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ray Ghio Jr

BRENT STOP, PLEASE, JUST STOP.

I'll post what I feel. Show me that anything I've posted is incorrect.

#44 03-31-2007, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Brent Busch

I'll post what I feel. Show me that anything I've posted is incorrect.

Every single post by you on this thread is 100% incorrect period.
Let JFR tell us what went wrong... And again PLEASE.

#45 03-31-2007, 03:28 AM

ok guys honestly.....why cant we both just agree that there was possibly more than one cuase to eric's death!!!!!! and silly arguments like this dont help the grieving process....its only makes it harder!!!!!! and it seems as if it's getting to the point that we barely respect each other...i am absolutely positive what needs to be addressed by the racing teams will be!! why does it matter if we (as spectators, not pro drivers) know what really happend??!!

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