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Old 02-06-2007, 05:54 PM
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Re: Odds on a 4.30's run this season?

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One requirement would be for NHRA to continue to look the other way with the rev-limiters as they did many times last year when they had been mysteriously inoperative. If they enforce the rule to the letter of the law, it's virtually impossible.
Do the math!

What makes it impossible??
What math?

If AJ picks that thing up .03 in the 1/8, he's there. Rev Limiter isn't on then anyways.
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Old 02-06-2007, 06:02 PM
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Re: Odds on a 4.30's run this season?

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I think it will happen late in the season, Saturday night Oct. 6th second round qualifying in Richmond. To everyone's surprise, it won't be A.J. & the "Army Strong" ride but none other than the "Ice Cream Man" piloting the CREAMSICLE rail to a 4.39 run
Na, it's gonna be Whit and Lee at Petersburg, but only if we get the "Top End" problem fixed... And they be in fifth in points at the time and the extra twenty will put them in the final four with tony, larry and doug... running the cards for max points then get kicked back to just 40 out... bumping hotrod out of the chase
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Old 02-06-2007, 06:19 PM
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Any given car out there could do it "if conditions are right". Certainly not just Schumacher. Like someone said though, why "try" to do it early on? Later in the season is when it will be critical to eek out every point you can.

The heck with the .30's..... I'm still hoping someone can smash Joe Amato's long-standing track record at Bandimere!!!
What is the record at Bandimere?
What do you think the NHRA's reaction would be if someone were to run a .30?
Everytime they try slowing them down they just get around it and end up quicker.
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Old 02-06-2007, 06:27 PM
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What is the record at Bandimere?
What do you think the NHRA's reaction would be if someone were to run a .30?
Everytime they try slowing them down they just get around it and end up quicker.
4.58 in 1999
Prock holds the track record for both fuel classes at the same time. Pretty Cool.
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Old 02-06-2007, 07:39 PM
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What makes it impossible??
What math?

If AJ picks that thing up .03 in the 1/8, he's there. Rev Limiter isn't on then anyways.
Do you know for an absolute fact that the rev-limiter was functioning on the prior runs of which you speak? Without the top end numbers where it kicks in, there will be no record breaking passes.
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Old 02-06-2007, 08:34 PM
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[color="Magenta"]Do you know for an absolute fact that the rev-limiter was functioning on the prior runs of which you speak? Without the top end numbers where it kicks in, there will be no record breaking passes.[/COLOR]
There just was a record breaking pass!!!

It was a quick run, from the time it left the starting line, to half track, to 1000', to wherever the limiter kicked in, to the 1320. It was hauling ass long before it was on the limiter.

Here are some numbers for you--
"The Pass"-- current rev limiter package

3.003/283.19 3.759 4.428/327.98

The 337 Pass from Brainerd.

3.019/277.77 3.785 4.446/337.58

660 et difference=.016
1000 et difference=.026
1320 et difference=.018

This tells me on average the car on the .42 pass was still pulling harder to 1000' to make the time difference grow .010. Between 1000' and 1320' something happened to make the time difference shorten to .002, not to mention the car went from being 5 mph faster at the 1/8 to being 10 mph slower at the finish line. Tells me the limiter probably came on down there.
I'm not saying he would of run 342 MPH, but it could of been 334-337.

Or, it put a hole out, which could represent the loss. Ethier way, it goes to show if you run it hard before it kicks in, you can lose 10 mph and still manage a record time.

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Old 02-06-2007, 11:02 PM
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Sounds like we should be looking for a 2.90 in the 1/8th first.
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Old 02-07-2007, 05:28 AM
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I think AJ and company have found a way to get that car up on the tire alot sooner in the run. The first 800' or so, the thing is haulin', then that rev limiter kicks in and a .42 comes up at just 327mph. Just some random thoughts.

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Old 02-07-2007, 07:54 AM
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I wouldn't bet against you!

Hey Justin did you make it down to Houston to watch the pro mods, any good? I haven't looked for results yet, been busy.

Mike
Yeah, we were out there running top dragster. There were only 3 pro mods. It was disappointing to say the least. I am sure the weather played a big role in it. Frankie Taylor, Chris Smith, and Booth. All 3 local guys, Taylor being the only one that you guys probably know. Taylor got off the only decent run with a 4.05 1/8th mile time. I will say this though, Michael Phillips was there with his new Sharp Contractors PSB and I seen him make a couple of passes, first a 7.14 at 190 and then a 7.10. It looked good.

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Old 02-07-2007, 10:41 AM
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I think AJ and Shoe would have gone a .40 or .41 on the famous "shutoff" pass had the car not had issues. I am with Justin that I got 50 that AJ is first to it, though I would love to see Baze and Beard get it done.
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Old 02-07-2007, 11:33 AM
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I think I may have a different look at this thread... If AJ or Tobler, or whoever, can run a .30 or a .40 and pretty much put that record out of reach for everyone else early... Pomona 1 or Gainsville, wherever... Get it while you can and be done with it and move on to Max. points at every race... There is no doubt that everyone thinks that AJ and his CREW!! are going to be the ones to do it... But Rahn can get it done as well... JMO
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Old 02-07-2007, 03:57 PM
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Re: Odds on a 4.30's run this season?

You all know you can run a 4.30's and not set a record, Right?
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Old 02-07-2007, 04:00 PM
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Re: Odds on a 4.30's run this season?

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You all know you can run a 4.30's and not set a record, Right?
Yeah...

I think we are all just speculating on IF one will be run this season.
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Old 02-07-2007, 05:21 PM
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Re: Odds on a 4.30's run this season?

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Yeah...

I think we are all just speculating on IF one will be run this season.
Right, and a lot of the guys are saying that because of the new points system, no one would want to set a record early which is true. But that doesn't mean the won't try to "go for broke", early on, and put the data away for another time. So,, someone can run a 30's and choose not go for a NR. JMHO Another testimonial to the ridiculousness of the "New" Points System, Damn, I'm Hijacking my own thread!
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Old 02-07-2007, 05:23 PM
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But that doesn't mean the won't try to "go for broke", early on, and put the data away for another time. So,, someone can run a 30's and choose not go for a NR. JMHO Another testimonial to the ridiculousness of the "New" Points System, Damn, I'm Hijacking my own thread!
That's true.

Now give YOUR thread back to it's rightful owner!!!!
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