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Old 11-13-2006, 11:11 AM
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You didn't watch the 5 minute segment of NHRA2day did you? Had you watched the analysis you would know that Alan made eye contact with Rick. He knew Rick ordered him to shut down.

Rick has a button to start the tree and does not have a button to control a red light for one lane.

What you call ridicule is my DISGUST with the NHRA and the Schumacher Team. Not ridicule by any stretch. Somebody could have been killed last night. A $20K fine is nothing to these guys. They should have been bounced from the event.

TV ratings was the name of the game. Had the NHRA taken appropriate action Tony would have been out of the race.
No Rick Stewart failed. He walked right by Alan and did not shut him off. He is the ultimate one in control and could have not even given the light. It's dark, Alan's trying to check things over. Rick needs to grab abhold of him to make sure he knows to shut it off.
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Old 11-13-2006, 11:16 AM
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I'm a Kalitta fan and was hoping he could pull it out.

When Beckman ran the numbers he did just before Tony I knew Tony would run quick enough. I was hoping it would be too quick for thr 1% backup.

I must say the charge the Sarge made the last half of the season is amazing. It's a shame we'll never have the chance to see something like thsat again as the new system will take that away.

Congrats to the Army team and to the Mac team. I felt so bad for Doug, hopefully next year.
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Old 11-13-2006, 11:27 AM
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Why are you targeting me here?? Is it because me and a handful of other people have the guts to say what they really feel?? Yes I watched qualifying last night but when a driver says he clearly saw he was supposed to shut the car off that shows a complete disregard for the safety of himself and the other driver. Regardless of whether the tree was activated or not he should have been a responsible driver and shut it off when "he clearly saw him" tell him to do so. Next time don't try to call me out on something when I am not the only one feeling this way.
Lisa and others,

I suspect that the rule book had nothing in it regarding such an incident, so NHRA once again had to use their discretion. They took the easy way out and decided to just fine DSR/AJ & Tony vs. take away points. You may see a rule *addition* next year, but for this year it's over.

I was a Doug Kallita fan all the way, and I SO did not want to see what happened happen, mainly because I felt that Doug deserved it this year, but how can you not be impressed with the late season charge that AJ & Tony made? Doug and Rahn played it too safe in the last 6 races or so, maybe not by choice, but they really did not have the car to stack up to AJ/Tony until yesterday. Maybe they should have pulled out that old car several races ago as it got right down to business on its first run! I hated to see that happen to Doug & team as they are a class act, and if Melanie's car had not started running like earlier in the season, Doug would be on the podium. Now that I think about it, there was a rumour running around this past week about a supposed "BLOCKER" entered by one of the T/F teams, and ya know what, I bet AJ's tuneup may have wandered over into Melanie's car for this race and made her the said BLOCKER. Watcha think, Maters?
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Old 11-13-2006, 12:11 PM
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Lisa don't take it to hart Peter is a DSR employee he was just standing up for his guy!
Now back to the win that is the stuff legends are made of and Alan is that legend he could win a championship with ANY driver!
Tony is a great driver but the legend is ALAN JOHNSON.....
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Old 11-13-2006, 12:17 PM
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You mean Coil and Johnson won again...
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The numbers demonstrated that Coil had the inferior tune up to Todd's. Anyone could have seen that from Beckman's record run. I believe someone who knows how this sport works would understand that it was clearly decided at the starting line by the superior driver?

As I see it, AJ WAS the sole determining factor in T/F. Without the record, Kalitta would have earned his championship but AJ stole it away fair and square. I would love to see AJ make a move next year. Oh, Please!!!!

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Old 11-13-2006, 12:41 PM
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As I see it, AJ WAS the sole determining factor in T/F. Without the record, Kalitta would have earned his championship but AJ stole it away fair and square. I would love to see AJ make a move next year. Oh, Please!!!!


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Old 11-13-2006, 12:59 PM
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BTW: Nobody can complain about diving.........

Mel had the jump and ran all the way.
So many scenarios this year and I can't recall ANY team asking one car to lay down for another.

WHAT a final......What a great Season.

BTW: What kind of S....Storm would have erupted if Sarge had gone TOO QUICK?!?!?!
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Old 11-13-2006, 01:42 PM
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No Rick Stewart failed. He walked right by Alan and did not shut him off. He is the ultimate one in control and could have not even given the light. It's dark, Alan's trying to check things over. Rick needs to grab abhold of him to make sure he knows to shut it off.
PJ, do you think after Rick told them to shut down he got orders to let him go from the tower? Something is not right because he went ahead and started the tree. And he did walk right past him, like you said.

Remember the Shoe team wiping up the oil after the burn out? They knew they had a problem and ran anyway. Someone could kave been killed. Not good.
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Old 11-13-2006, 01:45 PM
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You're sh!ttin me right? Are you Robert K's wife?? I'm pointing this to all that seem to have a boil on their butt over this. (not just you)

So a $20,000 fine isn't enough? That is a stout chunk of change..because it's not supposed to happen..ever. Now...are you saying they should have disqualified him? Disqualified him to compete on Sunday? PFFFFTT..why don't you guys eat the crap you just put in the congratulatory cereal that AJ and Shoe deserved eh?

I was rooting for Doug..but you can't deny what was accomplished in the final..you just can't..and still have any shade of credibility left. (thanks Kell)

Just bite the bullet and say 'good job'.
They showed a complete disregard for rules and safety. You really think 20K is a lot of money to a multi million doller team. To quote you: PFFFFTT.
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Old 11-13-2006, 02:12 PM
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PJ, do you think after Rick told them to shut down he got orders to let him go from the tower? Something is not right because he went ahead and started the tree. And he did walk right past him, like you said.

Remember the Shoe team wiping up the oil after the burn out? They knew they had a problem and ran anyway. Someone could kave been killed. Not good.


I wondered that too but I've never seen him have any communication device with him plus its not like he could hear anything standing there
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Old 11-13-2006, 02:47 PM
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Beyond what Alan Johnson did yesterday to ensure Tony S. won championship...

Tony should be kissing Melanie's right foot for that unconscious .026 light in the semi's. I mean come on! Doug was a .058, better than his average and Melanie straps that on him for the win!

If not for that .026 light, Tony wouldn't have had the opportunity in the final!

Alan Johnson is the end all, be all, of Fuel crew cheifs in my book!!
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Old 11-13-2006, 02:57 PM
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Really?
Really?
The numbers demonstrated that Coil had the inferior tune up to Todd's. Anyone could have seen that from Beckman's record run. I believe someone who knows how this sport works would understand that it was clearly decided at the starting line by the superior driver?
You're right - the driver is only to be praised when he has a crew chief that doesn't give him a winning tune-up yet wins the race. We know that the crew chief had nothing to do with the car going down the track in those scenarios. LOL!

GROW UP PEOPLE!

It's the same story on here and it will be.

Tony Schumacher - regardless of who his crew cheif ever is, will never get credit for being a good driver because people dislike his dad's umbrella operation.

John Force - hung the moon. Don't matter what happens, he is god to the jabber jaws. Yes, he is good, and I like him, and he IS 14x champ. He has the back up to prove his goodness - but he had a crew there too.

Alan Johnson - deserves every bit of credit he gets. He is the best top fuel tuner ever.

Some things are just the way they are - but it doesn't mean they are all right.

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I apologize if this was addressed already, but, while I'm not saying Alan was right for not shutting Tony off, does anyone really think he would have sent him if it was unsafe? I wasn't on the starting line, I was watching it on TV, but it seems like it smoked the tires because of the set-up, not because Tony staged in a puddle of oil.
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Old 11-13-2006, 04:08 PM
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force won again, schumacher won again.

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I could be wrong, but I think the only way to combat Shoe & AJ is a Force TF car (Prock and Hight?), but I don't think we will see that happen.
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Old 11-13-2006, 05:34 PM
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I could be wrong, but I think the only way to combat Shoe & AJ is a Force TF car (Prock and Hight?), but I don't think we will see that happen.
Yeah, buddy! I would LOVE to see that as well.
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