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11-08-2006, 07:46 PM
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Quote from Antron Brown
"We only have one little wheel to light the bulbs with. The other Pro categories have two wheels and they're staggered by at least two inches so they're in the beams longer...... Plus, we have a very short throttle cable ....... and we're reacting with our hands rather than our feet. It's a shorter distance to travel when your mind says 'go' to let out the clutch with your hand instead of stomping on the throttle or dropping the clutch with your foot."
That was stated by Antron... take notice of of the Bold type.... Why dont they just make the cable a little longer ?? or a LOT longer if need be.... or more Air Gap.... Am I missing something ?
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11-08-2006, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by John Panuzzo
"We only have one little wheel to light the bulbs with. The other Pro categories have two wheels and they're staggered by at least two inches so they're in the beams longer...... Plus, we have a very short throttle cable ....... and we're reacting with our hands rather than our feet. It's a shorter distance to travel when your mind says 'go' to let out the clutch with your hand instead of stomping on the throttle or dropping the clutch with your foot."
That was stated by Antron... take notice of of the Bold type.... Why dont they just make the cable a little longer ?? or a LOT longer if need be.... or more Air Gap.... Am I missing something ?
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Yes, you are missing something. He's trying to make excuses for cutting a bad light. Also applies to his little buddy. 
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11-08-2006, 08:01 PM
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No need to hate Robert..? Geez.
I don't see it as an excuse..more like what he feels are reasons. It's something all of the PSM class needs to adjust to.
Hey..its the same for all of them. Lots of red lights.
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11-08-2006, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by David Williams
No need to hate Robert..? Geez.
I don't see it as an excuse..more like what he feels are reasons. It's something all of the PSM class needs to adjust to.
Hey..its the same for all of them. Lots of red lights.
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And that is the problem-if it were so easy to adjust to, they'd be a lot fewer red lights. One reason there were more this year is that the Suzikis got more cubic inches, which translated into more horsepower, which translated into bikes leaving more quickly, which translated into more redlights. Remember that the reaction time equals the driver's reaction time plus the bike's reaction time. If the bike's reaction time is less, so is the overall reaction time.
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11-08-2006, 08:15 PM
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I'm with Willymon here, no need to hate. I agree with Antron's valid assesments, but I also think that no excuse can be made for anyone in the class with one race to go.
The bikes & the NHRA need to maybe look into doing something a little different for next year though, the ACDelco Nats in Vegas were ridiculous with all the redlights.
They did well in fixing the finish line problem for the motorcycles by incorporating the disc in the front wheel, so now they can work on lowering the percentage of redlights.
What ever needs to be done to make a better show... (and I don't mean getting rid of the bikes..., I'm sure many of you are thinking that.) 
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11-08-2006, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by David Williams
No need to hate Robert..? Geez.
I don't see it as an excuse..more like what he feels are reasons. It's something all of the PSM class needs to adjust to.
Hey..its the same for all of them. Lots of red lights.
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One or two red lights is cutting a bad light. The number of red lights in Las Vegas I think NHRA needs to look somewhere else. I don't have the answer. Jeff Foster might.
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11-08-2006, 08:23 PM
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Just replace it with Pro Mod,lol.
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11-08-2006, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by David Williams
No need to hate Robert..? Geez.
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So why would anyone hate Robert?
I think they should give PSB anything they want. Maybe they'll quit their whining.
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11-08-2006, 08:28 PM
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Did anyone notice that scoop said those comments were made over a year ago?
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11-08-2006, 08:40 PM
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Did anyone notice that scoop said those comments were made over a year ago?
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I didn't know that, thanks for pointing it out Karl. That makes a big difference in the topic of this thread.
Antron's not making excuses this year & he could still win it all.
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11-08-2006, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Jer Weaver
Just replace it with Pro Mod,lol.
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Quote of the year!
Seriously, I don't get it. I always thought the start of the race was the green light.  All these bike guys/ladies/babies go when they see yellow. I thought the yellow light was just a warning that says hey, the green is about to come on. It works out for the fuel guys and the other classes, it times out pretty close to where it should be. Yellow to me does not mean start the race. It's the bikes and the riders that are at fault here, not the tree. If there was no purpose for the yellow, other then go, the tree would be instant green and that's it.
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11-08-2006, 09:11 PM
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Change the handlebar clutch lever perch, cable length, engine lever ratio.
If that's not enough, perhaps a hydraulic clutch lever with an ajustable inline bleeder valve would slow the clutch release down enough. I know that would work, and be tuneable.
No question it can be done, but it doesn't address the fact the tuners can currently tune a bike to tatoo a .400 tree by a tenth.
Pick what you want to tune, a rider, or parts.

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11-09-2006, 02:17 AM
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The PSB redlight problem appears more relative to the spread of the field than anything else. The bulk of the bulbs are the slower bikes gambling. Antron and Angelle in Vegas would be prime examples.
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A and A need to quit whinning and crying, and start using a practice tree instead. 
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11-09-2006, 05:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Songas
Seriously, I don't get it. I always thought the start of the race was the green light.  All these bike guys/ladies/babies go when they see yellow.
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The vehicle in the other lane will be close to the finish line for the person who waits for the "green" light. It's called 'cutting a light'
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