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#31 10-12-2006, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Lance Peltier

NutZ used to post on the Mater from time to time, that is until it became so uncivilized, The Comp site is already heading in that direction.

If I remember correctly, I think he was posting on here right up until his accident happened. I could be wrong though.

#32 10-12-2006, 08:44 PM

After admitting that he let Amato win a race that cost Cory Mac the championship way back, I never thought much of DH. I still carry the grudge. IMHO, Cory Mac was still the champ that year. He came in second by less than 200 points. And Cory did'nt go to Sanair because he was running without sponsorship and could'nt afford it. Even with one less race than Amato, Cory Mac (and Jimmy Prock) still almost won it.

And I won't even mention the Dougzilla episode againt Clay Millican. I still think Peter Lehman would've kicked his.....

But all of this is just my HO.

#33 10-12-2006, 10:05 PM

From Ken - "After admitting that he let Amato win a race that cost Cory Mac the championship way back, I never thought much of DH. I still carry the grudge. IMHO, Cory Mac was still the champ that year. He came in second by less than 200 points. And Cory did'nt go to Sanair because he was running without sponsorship and could'nt afford it. Even with one less race than Amato, Cory Mac (and Jimmy Prock) still almost won it."
I guess I missed something - who is DH and where and when did he admit to throwing a race?
This was a long time ago - is it possible that Cory didn't realize that borrowing a few hundred bucks for gas and entry fee at Sanair would have wrapped up his championship? - Jim

#34 10-13-2006, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Young

From Ken - "After admitting that he let Amato win a race that cost Cory Mac the championship way back, I never thought much of DH. I still carry the grudge. IMHO, Cory Mac was still the champ that year. He came in second by less than 200 points. And Cory did'nt go to Sanair because he was running without sponsorship and could'nt afford it. Even with one less race than Amato, Cory Mac (and Jimmy Prock) still almost won it."
I guess I missed something - who is DH and where and when did he admit to throwing a race?
This was a long time ago - is it possible that Cory didn't realize that borrowing a few hundred bucks for gas and entry fee at Sanair would have wrapped up his championship? - Jim

Please use the "Quote" button, much easier to figure out what you're quoting and what you're actually typing yourself.

#35 10-13-2006, 02:03 AM

Happy Birthday Dad!!! We Love You.....

#36 10-13-2006, 06:14 AM

Jim Young - The year was 1992. The race in Sanair was on the schedule sometime around the middle of the year. Many racers would skip Sanair due to the cost and trouble of crossing the border. Cory Mac was having a good year, but at the time nobody (including Cory) was thinking that Cory would be in the title chase. He had a family run (and financed) team with very little in the way of sponsorship. And it was only his second season in top fuel.

Anyway, I believe that it was at Topeka that Doug Herbert was racing Amato. Herbert slowed halfway through the run allowing Amato to pass and win the round. In a TV interview after the run, Herbert basically said that since Amato had helped him out (parts?), he did'nt want to hurt the championship run of the guy that was helping him, so he let Amato win. This occurred towards the end of the season when Amato was battling Cory Mac for the points lead. Amato went on the beat Cory for the title by 92 points (less than 1 round), which using the current points system, would have amounted to less than 10 points!!

With hindsight being 20/20, many people including Cory himself, wish he would have gone to Sanair. But when you're running on your own nickel, you do what seems right at the time. Cory was just trying to keep the operation on the race track for as long as he could until sponsorship came his way.

#37 10-13-2006, 06:20 AM

So.....

In other words.

Due to a decision excerising his (Cory Mac's) own free will, Cory Mac lost the title.

Gotcha'

REX

#38 10-13-2006, 06:38 AM

i would still credit Herbert with an assist if those are indeed the facts....bottom line is though, Cory goes to Sanair, he wins the title.

#39 10-13-2006, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Brent Busch

Please use the "Quote" button, much easier to figure out what you're quoting and what you're actually typing yourself.

Brent,

Jim Young posts on the 'Mater alot, and I appreciate many of his insights and observations, but this little annoyance of his regarding NOT using the "Quote" button on the lower right corner of the thread he is responding to has been pointed out to him multiple times. I think Jim just wants to mess with us, but I don't see why? It is actually easier (and more coherent) for him (and us) if he would do that, as he currently is cutting and pasting and adding quotes around the previous text which doesn't always make it that easy for the next person (as you said) to figure out WHAT he is responding to.

Jim, can ya help us out here? It's really not that hard.

#40 10-13-2006, 07:56 AM

....and since we de-railed the thread for a minute there, I apologize.

As for Cory Mac skipping Sanair and therefore losing those points which eventually cost him the championship, I agree that was a bummer. Hindsight is always 20/20. Since Sanair was earlier in the year, does anyone remember what position he was in at the time he made that decision? I suspect he was not in #2 at that time. I was not aware of Doug Herbert's assist to Joe Amato during that season, but if that's the case, I wish that kind of stuff was not done. It hurts the fans and damages credibility. I'm sure stuff like this still goes on without most of us knowing it, but it sounds like Doug came right out said what he was doing back then. I was a fan of Cory's then and was really impressed by his under-funded team and Jimmy Prock got his nickname, Prock Rocket during that timeframe as I recall, since Cory was keeping right up with the well funded teams. What makes it even worse to know this happened, is then Joe Amato hired Prock away from Cory. Sounds almost like a soap opera now.

#41 10-13-2006, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Kurt Leinenkugel

What makes it even worse to know this happened, is then Joe Amato hired Prock away from Cory. Sounds almost like a soap opera now.

Man I hate when people post stuff and they know jack sh*t about what happened. Cory Mac got hired to drive the McDonalds car for Larry Minor in 1994, therefore, Corys team went away!!!!!! He parked it. Prock was up for grabs, and Amato got him, which was what he needed to do after a less then great 1993 season.

Now on to Herbert and Amato.... Herbert blew a tire at Baton Rouge if I remember correctly, and Amato loaned him a wing, and some other parts to keep him going. Well after Indy, Tim Richards and Amato parted ways, and he was in a battle with KB for the title. Well, Herbert had been running better then Joe at that point, and as payback for the help earlier in the season, Herbert offered Jim Brisette's tune up on the Amato car, and they basicly worked as a team untill the end of 92, helping Amato win the title.

Cory Mac was actually in 3rd place coming into the world finals, behind Amato and Bernstein. KB and Amato went out early. I think Cory actually won the race too, but just ran out of rounds.

#42 10-13-2006, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Songas

Man I hate when people post stuff and they know jack sh*t about what happened. Cory Mac got hired to drive the McDonalds car for Larry Minor in 1994, therefore, Corys team went away!!!!!! He parked it. Prock was up for grabs, and Amato got him, which was what he needed to do after a less then great 1993 season.

Sheesh Paul, lighten up. Don't have to get all pissy. I did realize that Cory essentially folded his team and Prock was up for grabs, just didn't remember the details so well, as you so eloquently corrected me on. I mean it was only 13 friggin' years ago. I was following drag racing then but not as closely since the internet was still aways off, and I didn't have a ND subscription! Probably missed the TNN telecasts frequently too, as I now remember I moved into an apartment complex back then that did not have TNN on their cable so I was having to rely on friends to tape the telecasts for me, and that was hit or miss. See, I do remember things from back then!

Anyway, thanks for the history lesson about that years Top Fuel championship chase as I as well as others may not remember it all as well as you did. Sorry for the "soap opera" comment. Doug was just returning a favor and I can understand, but it still taints things in my book. Loaning parts to a competitor is one thing, but throwing a race is different in my book. Call me naive if you want. Hey, I'm a fan of Doug Herbert's too. Have visited his current shop in Lincolnton, NC and enjoyed going there and meeting with his employees and seeing his shop.

#43 10-13-2006, 11:27 AM

With great fans like this who needs enemys?

#44 10-13-2006, 03:06 PM

Paul, you are correct, Cory did win the `92 Finals after coming into the race third in points. It would have been nice for Larry Minor to have brought Prock into the fold the same time he hired Cory, because those two worked really well together, but I think Cory did alright with Beard and later on Mike Green as tuners.

#45 10-14-2006, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken Rau

But when you're running on your own nickel, you do what seems right at the time. Cory was just trying to keep the operation on the race track for as long as he could until sponsorship came his way.

Isn't that kinda what happened with TJjr. several years ago when he was running the dragster? They had a nasty blowup and didn't have the money to buy a new injector and related parts and because they couldn't attend the last race, he lost the IHRA championship that year.

Anyone heard anything on Wayne.......

Anyone heard anything on Wayne.......

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