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Old 09-17-2006, 01:55 PM
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Thanks Dan...Good Links...and a great avitar
Yes I went to the site Dan posted.. & thats about the going for price them.. & I think WELL WORTH IT... I've seen too many kids in wheelchairs..

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Old 09-17-2006, 03:18 PM
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WEAR THEM, just like seatbelts. I have loaded too many people into MSP helicopters bound for "Shock Trauma"! IS IT WORTH YOUR LIFE?
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HANS Devices

I too have looked at these and the question I have is why do they cost so much? I good high quality full face helmet can be purchased for $200 but a HANS Device is $900? You can't tell me it costs more to manufacture one then the other so why 4x the price?
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Old 09-18-2006, 10:33 PM
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Anything carbon fiber costs more then double of fiberglass at the very least... That $200.00 helmet is definitely not what I would consider quality... Price a Simpson or Impact prouct and you are looking at way more then that... Now price a CF helmet and you will see the price rise... Most helmets are mass produced... Hans and R3 are probably getting there, but not to the extent of helmets... Quantity of sales will bring down the price I would think... However, I have wondered the same thing myself... And this is the only answer I can come up with... A life saving device under a grand is really PRICELESS!! I would'nt even think of running without one or the other... JMO
Want a HANS? www.taylormotorsports.com Call Dennis he has the best price... Not to mention, a very nice man...
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Old 09-18-2006, 11:20 PM
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Do you think the cost of liability insurance fits into
the pricing of any safety equipment manufactured today?
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We purchased a HANS device for my wife the Monday after the recent death at Houston Raceway Park. We were two cars in front of that accident, and walked out onto the track and saw the initial impact point minutes after it happened. Standing there I knew I couldn't send my wife down the track one more time without one.

I'd recommend going the $90 extra for the quick release mechanisms. It can be a little difficult for the driver to unclip the helmet from the HANS device to get out of the car. Although getting out of the car with helmet and HANS still on is not an issue.

My kids race juniors and we haven't ponied up for them yet. There was a rollover wreck at the Junior Nationals in Denver this year that ended with the car nosing into the wall. I happened to have space to haul the car back to a chassis builder in Houston to be front halved. The amount of concrete pieces that vibrated out of the front chassis tubing into my trailer on the 1000 mile trip home was quite surprising.

The HANS device does not seem to inhibit finish line driving at all. The installation instructions have a recommended amount of strap slack, which my wife has steadily had me descrease further to the point where her head turn at the top end is right where the straps run out of free play.

The price of entry to a junior car is funny. You can have a competitive package if you shop carefully, get a little lucky, and part with say $3,500. However, there are a ton of people who have more than $15k in a new car with paint. I don't think it makes them that much better though.
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Anything carbon fiber costs more then double of fiberglass at the very least... That $200.00 helmet is definitely not what I would consider quality... Price a Simpson or Impact prouct and you are looking at way more then that... Now price a CF helmet and you will see the price rise... Most helmets are mass produced... Hans and R3 are probably getting there, but not to the extent of helmets... Quantity of sales will bring down the price I would think... However, I have wondered the same thing myself... And this is the only answer I can come up with... A life saving device under a grand is really PRICELESS!! I would'nt even think of running without one or the other... JMO
Want a HANS? www.taylormotorsports.com Call Dennis he has the best price... Not to mention, a very nice man...
Simpson Full Face Helmets start at $260.00 at Jegs (sorry Dennis didn't mean to cheat you out of a sale). According to the HANS Web Site they are made from Carbon Resin not Carbon Fiber, I don't know enough to tell what difference that makes. Also in reading the information on the HANS Web Site they recommend replacing your HANS Device every five years, just like a helmet. I wonder if a version could be made from Kevlar/Fiberglass like the helmets are to get the prices down so more racers can afford them? I like most people would like to see more racers wear them, I am sure as they become more affordable more will.
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Most competitors don’t understand head and neck restraint products.

They think they don’t go fast enough to use a HANS, but the impact that killed Dale Earnhardt was at 35mph. Chances are that most competitors will never have an accident where they need a HANS and chances are good they won’t ever need a helmet or fire suit either.

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Do you think the cost of liability insurance fits into
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Thanks again Darr, That is what I was trying to say also...
No disrespect at all meant Gregg...
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I started wearing a HANS last year, got talking into it by a good friend who wears one... I like it SOOO much better then the collar. It takes a bit to get used to getting in and out with it but after a bit it is habit. I have the quick releases as well and really like them.
I did not buy one I have road race buddys who have tehm and have let me use it, I set my helmet up for it and will most likely set up my F/C helmet as well (just in case)
It is a GREAT investment...
As far as helmets go... If you have a $200.00 head get a $200.00 helmet...
THINK ABOUT IT...
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Thanks again Darr, That is what I was trying to say also...
No disrespect at all meant Gregg...
None taken. Now how do we get the price down to a point that more people can afford and or choose to wear them?
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I started wearing a HANS last year, got talking into it by a good friend who wears one... I like it SOOO much better then the collar. It takes a bit to get used to getting in and out with it but after a bit it is habit. I have the quick releases as well and really like them.
I did not buy one I have road race buddys who have tehm and have let me use it, I set my helmet up for it and will most likely set up my F/C helmet as well (just in case)
It is a GREAT investment...
As far as helmets go... If you have a $200.00 head get a $200.00 helmet...
THINK ABOUT IT...
Jerry,

Your comment about helmet vs head price would mean a lot more to me if you actually purchased your own HANS. I wish all of us could use one free of charge.
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Old 09-19-2006, 05:59 PM
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None taken. Now how do we get the price down to a point that more people can afford and or choose to wear them?
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That is the $64,000 question... Or the catch 22... I really don't see them cutting the price in half... They know what they have, and I think the sanctioning bodies should make them mandatory, along with full face helmets (with visors shut) I think the HANS has proven itself a number of times already and would hate to think that another life must be taken before the BIGS make another decision on something like points instead of safety first... I don't think Jerry was attacking you... Just trying to make a HARD get the point statement... I would delete that post Gregg... Good Luck and lets keep the question out there, but I believe that with a company as small as HANS and R3 the liability insurance is huge...
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