Alcohol before Nitro?

#16 09-13-2006, 10:40 AM

I think that moving up in steps is a good thing. More seat time in any class does not hurt. One thing that I think should be involved in the licensing process is to drop the laundry. We have many friends that race Super Comp with our daughter and they are scared to open the parachute. This is something that every racer should have to do. Just my two cents.

#17 09-13-2006, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Willie Gray

I think that moving up in steps is a good thing. More seat time in any class does not hurt. One thing that I think should be involved in the licensing process is to drop the laundry. We have many friends that race Super Comp with our daughter and they are scared to open the parachute. This is something that every racer should have to do. Just my two cents.

I agree Willie! Anyone willing to sign the license of another should see the full gamut of operation from easily managing every control in the cockpit while blindfolded and pulling the chutes on a run is vital, yet some don't require it be done and the learning process is incomplete.

#18 09-13-2006, 11:18 AM

I agree alcohol is a great proving/learning ground ... all I know is that some day I would like to race Alcohol!

#19 09-13-2006, 12:58 PM

I agree with moving up from the alky ranks, there are alot of good drivers that have come from that direction, Scelzi, Capps, Shoe, T.J., Wilk, just a few.

#20 09-14-2006, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Miller

I prefer the way John Force is grooming Ashley as opposed to Hot Rod Fuller's take on it?

Hot Rod Fuller has been down the 1/4 mile more times than you could imagine. He could race a final with a cup of coffee in his hand, cut a 400 light and not spill a drop. He's been racing so long that it's he's not a good reference for someone who is green.

Maybe Dan Pastorini or Del Worsham are better examples.
By the way, both were extremely competitive right off the bat, and both won in a very short time.
Having said that, those guys started in the days of 5.40 Top Fuel qualifing times.
IMHO, either you got it, or you don't.
If you don't, you better take the time to get it.....

#21 09-14-2006, 07:56 AM

only 5.40 seconds??? do we really understand how quick that is... spoiled by todays cars that go sub 5 sec routinly may make a 5.40 seem ho hum but in the drivers seat its a whole other ball game. Bruce alluded to this earlier that being enclosed in that cockpit with very limited visibility, and actually feeling that motor in front of or behind you for that matter really puts it all in perspective, not to mention stepping on the loud pedal.

#22 09-14-2006, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Karl Stalcup

Sam...
Long, Long ago in a galazy Far Far away, they were.... But it's even harder to handicap an injected nitro flop than it is to adjust the A/FD vs AA/BAD thing... Besides, why blown flops when a good injected car at 2600 pounds should run 5 flat or even 4.9's

That sounds like IHRA allowing unlimited A/fuel Dragsters in TF. They were predicting 4's. Never happened!

#23 09-14-2006, 06:28 PM

Noise....
give 'em pure pop, no rev limiters... I can see an injected car running within .5 of a aa/fc with the governor.... take the governor off the blown cars, I can see 4.3's in top fuel and 4.5's in floppers... and no more 1000 ft passes

Roxynova

#24 09-14-2006, 10:18 PM

Re: Extending the licensing procedure

- With the cost of fuel, tires, etc. in a Top Fuel or Funny Car (estimated at $4000 per run, IF nothing breaks), it would be unrealistic to extend the procedure. Already, it costs almost $20,000 at that rate to get a TF/FC license, if everything goes well. I know people who have been seeking their PS license who are good experienced drivers. Track conditions, car problems, and weather have caused them to go to three full sessions or more to get their runs in.

Re: Parachutes

- On a decent-length track, a SuperComp dragster shouldn't require parachutes on a 160 mph run. They hardly need BRAKES. When I was licensing, Mike Bell had me so scared of over-braking that I didn't touch the brakes until I had "glided" down to about 40 mph and I easily made the last turn-off at SGMP. When I decided to try the brakes, I made the first turn-off, still without the chutes and using gentle brakes.

I wanted to hit the chutes, just to feel it, but I sure didn't wanna re-pack those things.

#25 09-14-2006, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by George Civiletto

Hot Rod Fuller has been down the 1/4 mile more times than you could imagine. He could race a final with a cup of coffee in his hand, cut a 400 light and not spill a drop. He's been racing so long that it's he's not a good reference for someone who is green.....

Although I wasn't referring to his abilities whatsoever-only to his remarks about alky drivers a month or so ago, I would like to see that cup of coffee after one mid-5-second pass in Jay Payne's Alky F/C.

#26 09-14-2006, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Karl Stalcup

Noise....
give 'em pure pop, no rev limiters... I can see an injected car running within .5 of a aa/fc with the governor.... take the governor off the blown cars, I can see 4.3's in top fuel and 4.5's in floppers... and no more 1000 ft passes

Roxynova

Karl, IHRA basically said they could Tip the can(103%) and run unlimited Cubes. Dave Hirata supposedly had a combo built just for that but scraped the whole deal for some reason.

#27 09-15-2006, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Sherwood

Karl, IHRA basically said they could Tip the can(103%) and run unlimited Cubes. Dave Hirata supposedly had a combo built just for that but scraped the whole deal for some reason.

103%? Ummm... Joe, I'm no rocket scientist but how do you arrive at that percentage of nitro in fuel?

#28 09-15-2006, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Burgess

103%? Ummm... Joe, I'm no rocket scientist but how do you arrive at that percentage of nitro in fuel?

LOL, That's what I thought until talking to some Fuel guys at Indy! Just about every Nitro drum will measure over 100% depending on Temperature. Over 102% is pretty common. Don't ask me how that's possible, it just happens....

#29 09-15-2006, 04:30 PM

So, ya'll think even with the extra 35 cubes, and the can, lable and pour spout, no rev limiter, an a/fc can't run 5.0's... oh, yeah, drop the injected car to 2200 likes a roots ta/fc.

and the extras won't help a 2225 pound a/fd cut atleast 3/10 off their et's either... Note the weight drop to the same as TF... a hundred pounds is good for how much et? now figure 300 pounds...

just though I'd ask

#30 09-15-2006, 05:27 PM

I'll believe it when I see it.

Alcohol before Nitro?

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