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The money difference from 5th to 11th was almost 1 million not to mention any perks that may be added by the sponsor. So what. I will take 5th over 11th anytime, sure number one is good but if you didnt earn it you shouldnt get it.
Wasnt it also reported that some of the NASCAR sponsors that will give you $20 million for the year but only $15 if you dont make the chase holding out for obvious reasons?
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09-10-2006, 04:41 PM
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So, NASCAR's system works so well we need to copy it? Let's see, in 2004 (the first "Chase") we have Kurt Busch, arguably the least popular champion in NASCAR history who at best was a 6th or 7th place car in the old system. In 2005 we omit Jeff Gordon and Dale Earnhardt JR form the chase. How do you suppose that affected attendence and ratings? I attended a sold out Talladega that spring and refused to attend in the fall with neither above mentioned drivers in the running. Apparently a lot of other people felt the same way as there were seats available almost everywhere. NASCAR also has an advantage with their system that we do not. Their drivers are guaranteed a spot in the starting field. Lets get down to the race where 4 drivers start duking out for the championship and we have a rainy weekend. Only 2 sessions are run in qualifying because of the weather. Imagine all four drivers from one catagory not qualifying, not likely but is possible. If we're going to try to be like NASCAR, he!! lets go all the way and guarantee starting spots for the contenders. Interesting column from the link:
http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet...h=!sports!auto
PS: Did anybody see the IRL finale? That was a great NON-artificial points race. While it doesn't happen every year, it sure is nice to savor it when it does.
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09-10-2006, 05:08 PM
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Five? I would say at least 25 bonus points for winning, but would lean to an extra 50 in either series. I'm one who is looking forward to the new system, as long as it produces the final round or two deciding the championship.
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I agree it should be a more than just an additional 5 points for winning. I used that as an example, but right now 5 would be a start where as there aren't any extra points avalible now. You just get your normal 20 per round win. A final round win should certainly be worth more than 20 points in my opinion.
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09-10-2006, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Vincent Carmichael
I agree it should be a more than just an additional 5 points for winning. I used that as an example, but right now 5 would be a start where as there aren't any extra points avalible now. You just get your normal 20 per round win. A final round win should certainly be worth more than 20 points in my opinion.
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What about a 20-point bonus for qualifying No. 1. Getting one more qualifying point than the No. 2 guy doesn't seem right to me. Plus, if you gave the No. 1 that additional 20 points, you might have more teams try to go for the No. 1 on Saturday. The way it is now, teams that are safely in the show, just try to gain data for Sunday, but if you gave them that extra 20 points, it might motivate them more.
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09-10-2006, 06:02 PM
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If the NHRA doesnt amend the chase format, being the last 2 races to decide the championship, we then could very well have a joke being world champion.
It ridiculous but whatever. Nothing we can do about, and even as much as I hate it, it wont stop be from going to the races or watching them and supporting NHRA.
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Top four in Top Fuel right now
Doug Kalitta
Tony Schumacher
Brandon Bermstein
Melanie Troxel
Which one of those is the joke?
In Funny Car
Ron Capps
John Force
Robert Hight
Tony Pedregon
Same Question? You want Pro Stock too?
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09-10-2006, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Reinhart
Top four in Top Fuel right now
Doug Kalitta
Tony Schumacher
Brandon Bermstein
Melanie Troxel
Which one of those is the joke?
In Funny Car
Ron Capps
John Force
Robert Hight
Tony Pedregon
Same Question? You want Pro Stock too?
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Alan- You are killing these people with logic!
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09-10-2006, 06:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Reinhart
Top four in Top Fuel right now
Doug Kalitta
Tony Schumacher
Brandon Bermstein
Melanie Troxel
Which one of those is the joke?
In Funny Car
Ron Capps
John Force
Robert Hight
Tony Pedregon
Same Question? You want Pro Stock too?
Alan
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With the new format, all those above could be eliminated when we get down to the final four.
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09-10-2006, 06:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Reinhart
Top four in Top Fuel right now
Doug Kalitta
Tony Schumacher
Brandon Bermstein
Melanie Troxel
Which one of those is the joke?
In Funny Car
Ron Capps
John Force
Robert Hight
Tony Pedregon
Same Question? You want Pro Stock too?
Alan
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Ohhh..so you want to keep it the way it is?? Looks to be a pretty good battle to the end..in all 4 categories. And if one of those gets hot and runs away with it..they deserve it..right?
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09-10-2006, 06:25 PM
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OK, The 5th through 8th in Top Fuel are
David Grubnic
Rod Fuller
Larry Dixon
Morgan Lucas
Which one of them is the joke?
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Eric Medlin
Tommy Johnson jr.
Gary Scelzi
Whit Bazemore
Same Question? Where's the joke?
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09-10-2006, 06:26 PM
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I don'r really have much of an opinion either way... But regarding Tony Stewart, if Home Depot was gonna get mad about something (which they shouldn't), they should be mad about the team not performing well enough to make the chase.
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09-10-2006, 06:35 PM
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I really can't see how Morgan Lucas and/or Larry Dixon would be legitimate champions. Larry Dixon has been to one final this year, and Morgan has been to none. Not to mention Morgan has hurt a ton of parts and went from Columbus to Brainerd without winning one round. That's not to say that he can't turn things around and win a race before the end of the year, in fact he has looked better over the past few races. If he turns things around and wins a race or two he might move up to fifth which is where he would deserve to be. To place him above someone like Doug Kalitta who has won 5 races and had the most consistent car all year, or to rank him above Tony Schumacher after the charge he's been making since St.Louis would be an injustice.
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09-10-2006, 07:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Reinhart
OK, The 5th through 8th in Top Fuel are
David Grubnic
Rod Fuller
Larry Dixon
Morgan Lucas
Which one of them is the joke?
Funny Car
Eric Medlin
Tommy Johnson jr.
Gary Scelzi
Whit Bazemore
Same Question? Where's the joke?
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There isn't a joke in the bunch. I know where you stand, Alan..and it's all cool. I'm just wondering why they feel the need to make such a drastic change. And using your list..it's been another good year in all categories.
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09-10-2006, 07:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Reinhart
OK, The 5th through 8th in Top Fuel are
David Grubnic
Rod Fuller
Larry Dixon
Morgan Lucas
Which one of them is the joke?
Funny Car
Eric Medlin
Tommy Johnson jr.
Gary Scelzi
Whit Bazemore
Same Question? Where's the joke?
Alan
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I don't think any of them are a "joke", but, I also don't think that point deficits ranging from 339 to 444 points behind the leaders in each of the four Pro categories being reduced down to what would be less than four rounds behind going into the events left to be contested to be right.
I've seen the opinions posted here trying to compare this to playoffs conducted in other sports. Those other sports complete a regular season, THEN they go into their playoff formats. This is nothing like that, because the regular season continues in conjunction with the playoffs.
NASCAR screwed up their championship format in my opinion. I don't think drag racing should follow the same path.
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09-10-2006, 08:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Reinhart
OK, The 5th through 8th in Top Fuel are
David Grubnic
Rod Fuller
Larry Dixon
Morgan Lucas
Which one of them is the joke?
Funny Car
Eric Medlin
Tommy Johnson jr.
Gary Scelzi
Whit Bazemore
Same Question? Where's the joke?
Alan
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Based soley on their performances this year alone ? I would say that if you started the points over now and Morgan Lucas or Whit Bazemore wound up winning the championship, that would be a joke.
And I am a die hard Whit Bazemore fan. But you can't possibly truthfully state he should have a chance at the championship this year ?
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