No water in the burnout box cost Humphries?

#16 09-30-2008, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Randy Goodwin

Yea, you're right. The driver should be able to see the waterbox after getting suited up in the staging lanes a few cars behind the car currently in the waterbox. When it's his turn he should unbuckle his belts, take off his helmet and Hanns, check the water, grab the hose and start watering.

Have you ever been on the starting line in later rounds? Sometimes it looks like this...

Don't be silly.

You can easily see out in front of the car when suited up and strapped in before you get anywhere near the water box at any track I have ever raced at except for the one where you had to back up into the water box.

Do you have a reading problem? What I wrote is he/she can see the water or lack thereof and direct the crew or the track workers to correct the situation.

#17 09-30-2008, 07:57 PM

that's one funny picture. Kinda reminds me of the old 'New England Funny Car Nationals'

#18 10-01-2008, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron Burke

Don't be silly.

You can easily see out in front of the car when suited up and strapped in before you get anywhere near the water box at any track I have ever raced at except for the one where you had to back up into the water box.

Do you have a reading problem? What I wrote is he/she can see the water or lack thereof and direct the crew or the track workers to correct the situation.

I don't have a reading problem, wise guy. You said "Actually the primary fault lies with the driver. It isn't all that hard to see if there is any water, or too much water for that matter, before you pull up. You can then either tell your crew to put some down or get a track worker to do it."

I take issue with it being the driver's responsibility, except that he decides which of his crewmembers has the responsibility to manage the track and track position during each of his runs. Since we are to assume he has a capable crew, and, if in fact there was no water, Justin isn't the guy to blame.

Since you compared the vision of a Pro Stock car with your racing efforts, I did an internet search for Ron Burke and racing anything and all I came up with was Canoe Racing from Sonoma County and the rest was internet posts on message boards. Unless my search function is all screwed up, I wonder how that makes you an authority on what a driver can see, unless you are comparing it to a street car you race from time to time.

I'm sure you realize the driver's position in a Pro Stck car is as low in the car as possible (center of gravity), tucked back in the car. And the physical characteristics of the car which includes Lexan windshields (which do not cut the glare) along with hoods raised at the windshield to clear the valve covers plus scoops that block vision (ask Kurt Johnson) make seeing much of anything a luxury.

Look at this picture and tell me all about the visability when considering a water box 15 feet in front of the car. If the visability is so good, why do crew members direct their drivers up to Pre Stage?

#19 10-01-2008, 01:17 AM

uh...commercial break...

Randy.. Ron races super comp in D-1.....and has for some time.

ok...back to your program...with no further commercial interuptions...

#20 10-01-2008, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim Charlet

uh...commercial break...

Randy.. Ron races super comp in D-1.....and has for some time.

ok...back to your program...with no further commercial interuptions...

Sitting in most R/E dragsters the world would be bright and clear. Comparing that to the view from a Pro Stocker is no comparison at all.

Just for the record I looked at the D-1 points stats for Super Comp.

Division 1 in 2008 had 157 drivers compete in Super Comp. In 2007 there were 206 drivers, in 2006 there were 233 drivers, and in 2005 there were 203. No Ron Burke was listed in any of those years. Is he an association or club racer possibly?

Not picking on anyone. Just looking for perpective.

RG

#21 10-01-2008, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Randy Goodwin

Sitting in most R/E dragsters the world would be bright and clear. Comparing that to the view from a Pro Stocker is no comparison at all.

Just for the record I looked at the D-1 points stats for Super Comp.

Division 1 in 2008 had 157 drivers compete in Super Comp. In 2007 there were 206 drivers, in 2006 there were 233 drivers, and in 2005 there were 203. No Ron Burke was listed in any of those years. Is he an association or club racer possibly?

Not picking on anyone. Just looking for perpective.

RG

Not sure Randy... Just going off what I've been told by him...

#22 10-01-2008, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim Charlet

OK...

I wasn't there...

Where did you get this very rare photo of the NHRA board of directors?

#23 10-01-2008, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Randy Goodwin

Have you ever been on the starting line in later rounds? Sometimes it looks like this...

Completely agree with the folks that puts the call on water on the team but going plum' off-topic here:
Part of my work over the years has been in the image industry and the photograph up here is simply astounding to say the least.

If possible, please make sure to credit the photographer, location, contact etc etc.

Regards
PiPPi
http://HarleyDrags.com

#24 10-01-2008, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Randy Goodwin

This picture is a bit misleading, this view is from what I can tell at least 3 car rows behind and there is going to be a lot of people in the staging lanes which this is shot from.

The cars immediately behind the water box appear to have a clear view.