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Old 09-13-2008, 09:03 PM
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Re: "they wouldn't have noticed if we didn't tell them'

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maybe, for the first few runs but after watching the 1/4 mile 30 plus years i would have noticed. the track being shortened by about 1 quarter of its original length is a lot to me. 1/4 is very large fraction in my book
Yup....been watching for almost 40 years...who are they trying to fool ? People that can't notice a difference might as well set up lawn chairs alone the interstate and cheer for all the cars flying by at a blur ! lmao
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Old 09-14-2008, 07:40 AM
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Remove the clocks and he is right.
+1 The vast majority of people in the stands wouldn't notice; especially true for tracks that don't have seats at the big end.
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Old 09-14-2008, 07:43 AM
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Re: "they wouldn't have noticed if we didn't tell them'

I noticed.......not as many parts exiting the motor at the 1250ft mark.
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Old 09-14-2008, 09:45 AM
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Re: "they wouldn't have noticed if we didn't tell them'

[quote=Steve Friedland;171790]Maybe on TV! Every race I've been to since is sooooo obviously shorter.

Exactly! I didnt think it looked to bad on tv but i went to the World Series of Drag racing at Cordova(Wilkerson,T-ped,Worsham,Zizzo..etc) all ran a 1000 foot and it SUCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!! To see it in person you can tell there is a big difference! Had i known they were running 1000 foot i wouldnt have wasted my money, I was under the impression it was only national events they were running it at. I was dissapointed to say the least. 1000 foot stinks!
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Old 09-14-2008, 12:47 PM
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Maybe on TV! Every race I've been to since is sooooo obviously shorter. This also includes the fire show at Norwalk. This is from my perspective of 1/8 mile on. That's where I watch from. On TV it does seem harder to tell. My buddy said he didn't seem to notice when sitting at the starting line though. Maybe Snake needs to go sit in the grandstands at the 660 or so, THEN see if HE thinks there is no difference.
We sat right at the start (in Brainerd) and other then the times I personally didn't think it was that big a deal. I could imagine for those sitting at half track and beyond it would be a hell of a difference. Or for those who like to sit beyond 1000'.. you would think they would notice.
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Racers see things from the Racer perspective, NOT the fan perspective!
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Old 09-14-2008, 01:15 PM
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Racers see things from the Racer perspective, NOT the fan perspective!
well then I guess they'd better pay attention to us then.

I 'm going to vegas just because it's already bought and paid for but that'll be the last race I ever attend if they don't go back to 1320.
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Old 09-14-2008, 03:46 PM
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well then I guess they'd better pay attention to us then.

I 'm going to vegas just because it's already bought and paid for but that'll be the last race I ever attend if they don't go back to 1320.
Hey Bob:

Back in July you said your were done (See post number 3)...

I'm Done

I saw the interview and I think he was speaking of the casual fan's perspective. Everyone knows the people on Nitromater are well educated in drag racing and are not merely casual fans and I doubt he had you in mind.
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Old 09-14-2008, 03:50 PM
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well then I guess they'd better pay attention to us then.

I 'm going to vegas just because it's already bought and paid for but that'll be the last race I ever attend if they don't go back to 1320.
My own take on the situation was the change was a good short term solution that could easily be put in place, and that we'd return to normal sooner or later.

But as I mentioned in another thread here, I heard from some very weill connected people at Indy that the NHRA brass were working on the timing for releasing the statement that all racing would be 1000' foot in 2009 and beyond.

I really think that would be a mistake. It makes about as much sense as other decisions that have been handed down, but I have the strong hunch that the lawyers and insurance people have scared Glendora into doing something silly.

I have no doubt that the meetings were taking place, but hope that common sense rears its ugly head.
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Old 09-14-2008, 04:05 PM
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Shouldn't they just have standards for shutdown areas? Remember when the same teams would run 500 cubic inch NHRA pro stock and mountain motor IHRA pro stock? Would be interesting to have a mixture of 1,320 ft and 1,000 ft tracks on the tour designated by what their shutdown qualified them for. Wonder if some teams would be better on one?

Probably just thinking too far inside the box! I'd still have nitro cars at divisional races. 6-71 entry level classes. 400 cubic inch.
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Old 09-14-2008, 04:39 PM
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Hey Bob:
I saw the interview and I think he was speaking of the casual fan's perspective. Everyone knows the people on Nitromater are well educated in drag racing and are not merely casual fans and I doubt he had you in mind.
I think that may be the case, and yes the casual fan who may got to a race every 3-5 years yeah I doubt they know what's 1320 and what's 1000'.
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Old 09-14-2008, 10:24 PM
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Hey Bob:

Back in July you said your were done (See post number 3)...

I'm Done

I saw the interview and I think he was speaking of the casual fan's perspective. Everyone knows the people on Nitromater are well educated in drag racing and are not merely casual fans and I doubt he had you in mind.
Randy the tickets for vegas were bought in may. I watched 10 minutes of the broadcast yesterday waiting for my wife to fix her hair. Trust me, I am not spending hundreds of dollars to go to the Gatornationals or anywhere else if they don't go back to 1320.

I watched about 10 minutes tonight because I was curious about the new track , which is amazing . On the HD set I just bought, also amazing on ESPN2HD.

But it was boring. I 'd rather watch pro stock now.

Go search my old posts and see how amazing that statement is from me.

It's so damn stupid. You look at the containment system at the end of the track at Charlotte that you can see from a mile away , and wonder - why are they running 1000' foot at that track.

NHRA is cutting off it's nose to spite it's face.
It's pitiful what they are doing .They really are in a position to make this sport something bigger, and they go piss off the hardcore fans that they can count on year in , and year out.

Not me. Not anymore. I still care and I 'll still post, but I won't feel bad for not going. That's an amazing thing for me to say . I'm the kind of guy that gets goosebumps when I hear the first motor when I roll down my window on CR225 in Gainesville each year. My vacation schedule at work - 3 days in March every year for the last 12 years.



I just don't get it. It's not like they can't fix it. I 'm not going to pay good money to watch 3/4 of a drag race.
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Old 09-14-2008, 11:16 PM
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It's so damn stupid. You look at the containment system at the end of the track at Charlotte that you can see from a mile away , and wonder - why are they running 1000' foot at that track.
Had that very thought just tonight, Bob. Ed McCulloch nailed it when he said at Denver, "if you can't fix it (shutdown area), don't race there." Definitely a waste to be running 1000 ft. at Zmax.
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Old 09-15-2008, 12:12 AM
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Hey Mr Ludwig I cant belive another mater lives so close TO ME..lol

We videoed the world series for the track and i can tell you I NOTICED THE DIFFERNCE.. To be honest i went for the Nostalgia cars and they run 1320 on 100 percent if they want..lol
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Old 09-15-2008, 12:41 AM
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I bet Don is right that the "average" fan might not notice. Just like I think track owners thought the "average" fan cared more about ETs and MPHS ran by 70s match race funnies than they may have. Noise, smoke, and fire. You might be able to run them to the 1/8 without the "average" person in the stands noticing. (weird analogy but, I used to bartend and we'd often switch draft beer brands on people just to watch them not notice, LOL)
They may be shutting off at 1/4 of the distance but, not 1/4 of of the time spent running under power.

Likewise, I don't see why they'd make them do it at a track with that much shutdown.
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