Car Count for Bristol

#16 05-13-2008, 05:10 PM

Jenn, Good One!! I used to think that when I was in S/C too LOL

Joe, you may have a point, but their "quota" is for 420 cars, they never had restrictions before, and what did they get, maybe 475 at best?

That's way off from 318, here's the numbers for the 4 sportsman classes:

Super Stock 80 50 62.5%
Stock Eliminator 80 48 60.0%
Super Comp 100 92 92.0%
Super Gas 90 62

Now, if they do even 2 rounds of S/S, Stock and S/G on Saturday, they will be down to: S/S 13 cars on sunday (6 pairs and a single)
stock 12 cars on sunday (6 pairs)
S/G 16 Cars on Sunday (8 pairs)
S/C 21 Cars On Sunday (10 pairs and a single)

Unless a huge oil down or crash (God Forbid) that's about 20, 25 minutes of racing in between 2 and 3rd round of pro's, then they hot lap every one of these competitors to eat up the time for the final round. So what do they do in between 1st and 2nd round of pros??

I just think it's interesting, no pro mod, no pro stock bike, no alky, hmmmm (or is there pro mod and I've missed the press release???)

But still,

#17 05-13-2008, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Fuess

318 cars total?????.Hell there have been that many supercomp cars at one event before.What is NHRA thinking???

They're not... they are to busy "enhancing" the Sportsman racers national event experience.

It's really "enhanced" for the racers in classes not being competed at a particular event. Especially now that NHRA's biggest reasons for the "enhancement" (time and space) don't seem to be an issue. Of course they professed the "enhancement" would mean more time trials and host of other "benefits" that never materialized.

Where they really bit it is at event where either Super Comp or Super Gas are the class not participating. Not only do they eliminate the entries of the non-competing class but they have limited the entries of the one that does because many of those are racers with cars for both categories. They end up not going if they can't run both cars.

#18 05-13-2008, 05:21 PM

Well if you figure what most Sportsman team pay in entry fees at a Natl. event, NHRA has to be taking in the Shorts here!

Then again, I'm not gonna rule out the Cost of Fuel as a factor either.

#19 05-13-2008, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Sherwood

...Then again, I'm not gonna rule out the Cost of Fuel as a factor either.

I think you're right but maybe not in the way you think.

More and more Sportsman racers have been getting fed up with NHRA. But they still wanted to race, so they put up with all the crap. I think the skyrocketting cost of towing to and from the races was the incentive most racers needed to finally say goodridents to the whole circus of nationals events.

#20 05-13-2008, 05:43 PM

Pretty sure Pro Mod is running in Bristol.

#21 05-13-2008, 05:46 PM

Maybe it's time to bring out some Jet cars and wheelie cars for between rounds. And there's always that Minnesota stalwart, snowmobiles. (Which I would gladly forgo to see some pro mods up here.)

#22 05-13-2008, 06:19 PM

Any of you who know me know that I am as big a sportsman fan as there is, and I love the Alcohol cars, but they don't sell the tickets. I'm sorry but it's true. And over the years the car counts have gone down, so instead of thinning them even more by trying to get full fields at 24 events, the number of events was trimmed. And Super Street has never run the full schedule.

There are a number of reasons that car counts are down, the economy and fuel prices are two of them, but some of you just like to bash NHRA so you blame them for everything

Alan

#23 05-13-2008, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan Bennett

I think I can see a lucrative new career for you, Jen.

Thanks Dann

#24 05-13-2008, 07:06 PM

Hey Alan, I'm glad you posted on this. I'm just curious, and I'm not Bashing, rather just observing. I do know some of the politics behind all of this so it's not right to judge the decisions that are made, but what's going to happen in between the pro rounds in absence of all the cars?

I'm sure you may not know right now, but I would sure love to hear how it goes if you can let us know???

We'll be in Houston, so I won't be able to follow the stats very closely, but do you suppose if the low car counts continue, that they'll include more classes in the future??

#25 05-13-2008, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jenn Jaramillo

Thanks Dann

#26 05-13-2008, 08:04 PM

Nancy,

Having a little extra time to fill is MUCH better than having to many cars and not enough time. In Madison, it went very well, we did have the Motorcycles there, but the only real break was between the semi's and the finals. Don't forget that there is track prep before every Pro session, so that takes some of the 75 min. turn around time. After the Pro semi's we ran all the Sportsman semi's and had approx. 20 mins to kill. We did the Safety Safari Parade, gave away a Harley, And showed the video recap of last years PSM, PS and FC Countdown to the championship. While the FC video was running, the Stock final pulled to the ready line and we finished the video and crowned the champs. Believe it or not, I was asked in the Winner's Circle why we didn't show the TF recap. The point being that it's certainly not like we had hours of nothing going on. We (not like I have anything to do with it) also schedule in extra time for the finals, where every class gets a replay. How often does a Super Gas racer get to have his or her race spotlighted and shown in replay to the fans?

A few years ago NHRA decided that the Sunday show was to long. It was the normal procedure to be in the Winner's Circle at 9:30 or 10:00, now if we don't have weather delays the races are concluded in time for the fans to get home in time for Sunday dinner. and that's important.

Alan

#27 05-13-2008, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Nancy Matter

We'll be in Houston, so I won't be able to follow the stats very closely, but do you suppose if the low car counts continue, that they'll include more classes in the future??

The dropping one class at each event is a five-year rotation. IOW, each class will only be dropped from each national event once during those five years. I think we're in the third year of the rotation, and I also think the NHRA would be more likely to look at making changes at the conclusion of the five years.

See ya in Houston!

#28 05-13-2008, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan Bennett

I think I can see a lucrative new career for you, Jen.

Hey, Da, maybe we could get Jenn to register her team for this one?

#29 05-13-2008, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan Reinhart

Any of you who know me know that I am as big a sportsman fan as there is, and I love the Alcohol cars, but they don't sell the tickets. I'm sorry but it's true. And over the years the car counts have gone down, so instead of thinning them even more by trying to get full fields at 24 events, the number of events was trimmed. And Super Street has never run the full schedule.

There are a number of reasons that car counts are down, the economy and fuel prices are two of them, but some of you just like to bash NHRA so you blame them for everything

Alan

Hey Alan you think it might Rain in Bristol???

#30 05-13-2008, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan Reinhart

Any of you who know me know that I am as big a sportsman fan as there is, and I love the Alcohol cars, but they don't sell the tickets. I'm sorry but it's true. And over the years the car counts have gone down, so instead of thinning them even more by trying to get full fields at 24 events, the number of events was trimmed. And Super Street has never run the full schedule.

There are a number of reasons that car counts are down, the economy and fuel prices are two of them, but some of you just like to bash NHRA so you blame them for everything

Alan

Alan,
How is it decided which races the Alcohol cars are run at? Is this by demographics, opinion, or simply a certain number of races and then they are spaced out?
I am not bashing NHRA, I just personally wish they ran at a couple of races that I go to each year that happen to NOT be on their schedule. They used to run the St Louis race, but not any more. I have a family member that participates, and the more I see his team race at a national event, the better for me. It is hard to go to all the divisional races they run at, so to see both the pros and the alky cars is money in the bank as far as I am concerned. The cost of fuel is a consideration for the fans too.
Just curious.
Thanks for your time.

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