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Old 05-12-2008, 06:53 PM
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Re: is the high elevation really that bad at Bandimere?

They get to run the blower around 20% faster and it still can't make up for the altitude with 100% nitro.

Yes, it makes a big difference. And if your not real good up there, you can get real lost in a hurry.
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Old 05-12-2008, 07:22 PM
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Re: is the high elevation really that bad at Bandimere?

To quantify the difference with the fuel cars, all you have to do is count the blowers that lift the entire manifold. Better have your shoes off, however.
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Old 05-12-2008, 08:09 PM
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Re: is the high elevation really that bad at Bandimere?

I have also heard that tuning on the mountain is counter-intuitive. Even though you are spinning the blower faster, you slow the fuel pump down and put LESS fuel in the cylinder. The theory being that you have to speed the blower up and pump less fuel to it to maintain the same mixture that you would have at regular altitudes.
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Old 05-12-2008, 10:02 PM
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Re: is the high elevation really that bad at Bandimere?

That's what makes Denver such a unique race. NOBODY runs thier car here like they do anywhere else. They change just about everything but the paint jobs. Aside from the pure sportsmanship and mechanical challenge, you have a top notch facility that is absolutely relentless in thier pursuit of giving every single ticket-buyer thier money's worth. Not just at the nationals, but all year long. It all shakes out to be just a wonderful experience.
Heck, I know I'm nuts; but I actually think it'd be kind of exciting to see the race moved to a little bit later in the tour, make it to where it's a "Countdown" track. (Granted not too late, becuase at the Denver airport in the past, we've deiced planes here.... before Labor Day!)
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Re: is the high elevation really that bad at Bandimere?

And it will probably snow at the track tonightMay 12th and snow down to 6500 ft.
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Re: is the high elevation really that bad at Bandimere?

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That's what makes Denver such a unique race. NOBODY runs thier car here like they do anywhere else. They change just about everything but the paint jobs. Aside from the pure sportsmanship and mechanical challenge, you have a top notch facility that is absolutely relentless in thier pursuit of giving every single ticket-buyer thier money's worth. Not just at the nationals, but all year long. It all shakes out to be just a wonderful experience.
Heck, I know I'm nuts; but I actually think it'd be kind of exciting to see the race moved to a little bit later in the tour, make it to where it's a "Countdown" track. (Granted not too late, becuase at the Denver airport in the past, we've deiced planes here.... before Labor Day!)
I remember when Ray Higley was still alive, he told me he quit running up there because it's WAY to expensive! You hurt twice as many parts up there as anywhere else.
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Old 05-12-2008, 11:14 PM
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Re: is the high elevation really that bad at Bandimere?

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I remember when Ray Higley was still alive, he told me he quit running up there because it's WAY to expensive! You hurt twice as many parts up there as anywhere else.
Ray Higley isn't alive anymore? When did that happen?
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Old 05-12-2008, 11:23 PM
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Ray Higley isn't alive anymore? When did that happen?
NHRA News: Veteran racer Ray Higley passes away (10/23/2000)
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Old 05-13-2008, 10:42 AM
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Re: is the high elevation really that bad at Bandimere?

Even at MonsterJam inside the climate-controlled Pepsi Center, they were complaining about how the trucks are affected by the altitude.
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Old 05-13-2008, 05:28 PM
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Re: is the high elevation really that bad at Bandimere?

I just need to throw in my two cents.....

I'm not a racer, just a fan, however the elevation at Bandimere Speedway has nothing on living in Flagstaff, AZ. 7000 foot elevation and that is just in the downtown area! Try walking up a small flight of stairs without getting winded even if you are in shape!

I lived there for a few years coming from Southern California and talk about a change!

The Arizona Cardinals actually train up there in the summer! Crazy!

Anyhow, a little off topic but just my 2 cents.
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Re: is the high elevation really that bad at Bandimere?

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Even at MonsterJam inside the climate-controlled Pepsi Center, they were complaining about how the trucks are affected by the altitude.
I remember back in the 80's taking my GTI down to Phoenix from Albuq. and the performance difference was HUGE! Felt like it had another 25 HP!
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Old 05-13-2008, 06:40 PM
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Re: is the high elevation really that bad at Bandimere?

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Old 05-13-2008, 10:57 PM
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Oh, sure Alan! Next you'll be bringing up duct tape or some crazy shiznit like that!
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Old 05-14-2008, 01:20 AM
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Re: is the high elevation really that bad at Bandimere?

In my opinion the best way to describe racing at Denver is to keep your nose closed all day and try to work LOL

By the way the race track is ok but pitting for Super stock passed the end of the track keeps me from running there even when the altitude is 10,000 from above sea level.
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Re: is the high elevation really that bad at Bandimere?

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In my opinion the best way to describe racing at Denver is to keep your noise closed all day and try to work
I'm sure you mean keep your nose closed right?
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