what happened to line?

#16 05-05-2008, 09:29 AM

In the onboard shot with the audio it sound like it one or two holes just go dead before he lifted. The initial white smoke looked more like maybe a head gasket. That could have caused a cylinder or two hydraulic and throw some rods out of the block and/or pan. Oil on the headers would account for the fire that resulted.

#17 05-05-2008, 10:20 AM

Why didnt he pull over?, is PS to good to pull over?
He spewed stuff all the way down the track.
And why the big bang?
Hope no one breaks into there shop and destroys the motors with a hammer

**Just joking**

#18 05-05-2008, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Don Clark

Why didnt he pull over?, is PS to good to pull over?
He spewed stuff all the way down the track.

That is exactly what I yelled out when watching the telecast last night.

#19 05-05-2008, 11:20 AM

I think he started pulling over once he found out the motor was gone.

I don't blame him for not cranking the wheel immediately not knowing if something got under the tires. It's not like he was going 15mph when the motor let go.

#20 05-05-2008, 01:04 PM

I was thinking similar. He knew the thing was hurt. He does not need to yank the car over violently and crash it, but to make a turnout with the oil they run could make for a very long cleanup.

#21 05-05-2008, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Mills

How many freebies (oildowns) do PS get? (I`m joking , I think).

Sportsman cars(dragsters) gets none and then a $200 fine(I think) if they put oil on the track. We like to say that "we have to pay to play in a national event sandbox then pay if we $hit in it".
Also they must also wear a diaper(for the motor, not the driver).

#22 05-05-2008, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Armand Keller

Sportsman cars(dragsters) gets none and then a $200 fine(I think) if they put oil on the track. We like to say that "we have to pay to play in a national event sandbox then pay if we $hit in it".
Also they must also wear a diaper(for the motor, not the driver).

$250 fine, what defines an oil down is a pretty gray area also.

#23 05-05-2008, 06:34 PM

I haven't seen flames come from a Pro Stock motor since Alderman's "rotor broke" on the Avenger. Then the Hammer came down

#24 05-05-2008, 11:18 PM

Anyone have a Link to the Video

#25 05-06-2008, 11:43 AM

There is a big difference when the fire comes out from the bottom right along with numerous peices of aluminum shrapnel after a literal ton of oil smoke, and well- this:

Oh wait. Did I say that out loud??

#26 05-06-2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzzz Miller

There is a big difference when the fire comes out from the bottom right along with numerous peices of aluminum shrapnel after a literal ton of oil smoke, and well- this:

Oh wait. Did I say that out loud??

Looked like a distributor fire to me...

They were so dependant on the juice that after they were caught they couldn't even build one motor that was halfway competitive. They had no baseline to build a competitive motor. That (to me) was the telling tale...

Cheaters!

#27 05-06-2008, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by John Caran

Looked like a distributor fire to me...

They were so dependant on the juice that after they were caught they couldn't even build one motor that was halfway competitive. They had no baseline to build a competitive motor. That (to me) was the telling tale...

Cheaters!

Don't you think that's being a little judgmental.

I think MS had a very good baseline. Maybe they just didn't have the extra support they needed from Mopar to put them on top. No one knows the whole circumstances except those directly involved. Let's not forget they were a group of talented people at Wayne County including the late Scott Geoffrion and Darrell Alderman.

#28 05-07-2008, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Issi

Don't you think that's being a little judgmental.

I think MS had a very good baseline. Maybe they just didn't have the extra support they needed from Mopar to put them on top. No one knows the whole circumstances except those directly involved. Let's not forget they were a group of talented people at Wayne County including the late Scott Geoffrion and Darrell Alderman.

Not too judgemental at all. They were cheating and found guilty in the court of public opinion. Once the alleged break-in happened they never were competitive. If they were innocent they would have been back to prior performance levels. I was amazed they didn't lose their sponsor. Cheating and Cocaine distribution doesn't make for great corporate public relations.

#29 05-07-2008, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by John Caran

Not too judgemental at all. They were cheating and found guilty in the court of public opinion. Once the alleged break-in happened they never were competitive. If they were innocent they would have been back to prior performance levels. I was amazed they didn't lose their sponsor. Cheating and Cocaine distribution doesn't make for great corporate public relations.

Court of public opinion? This post is harsh AND judgemental!

Darrell was very remorseful about that whole deal wasn't he, John? I find it to be in good character to be able to make a mistake..pay for it..and move on and be a better man than you were before.

#30 05-07-2008, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by John Caran

Not too judgemental at all. They were cheating and found guilty in the court of public opinion. Once the alleged break-in happened they never were competitive. If they were innocent they would have been back to prior performance levels. I was amazed they didn't lose their sponsor. Cheating and Cocaine distribution doesn't make for great corporate public relations.

But David, the quote above coming from a dyed in the wool pentastar devotee about a Mopar team lends some credibility, doncha think? Now if Johnny Cerberus was dissing on my man Dave Connolly's stellar reaction time this weekend, now THAT would be different, right, John?

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