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04-28-2008, 10:19 PM
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Re: Letter to Nitromater
Where's the Popcorn.........Oh better Can I get some Oreos and Milk!! I can't wait to see this one play out! LOL
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Where's the Popcorn.........
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04-28-2008, 10:44 PM
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not unlike a typical liberal whiner that doesn't like facts. 
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Like whining who can post what and when on here?
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04-28-2008, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Rex Lawler
I don't know for sure if I'd go there.
Jon is as lib as you get, as far as I have seen his politics displayed here.
and Ron D would sure back me up there.
I don't care what Asher writes and I don't care what "charles" writes.
he's got his panties in a wad for sure.
But a couple of the things he wrote I'd agree with.
And THAT should not bother anyone else here either, it's just my opinion.
All I do is look at the behavior displayed towards Ashleys win.
I mean, cripes.
Some people here will stick a pin in anything good done in the sport just out of their own cynical outlook on life.
I don't think anyone owes Danica a apology, shes a adult and probably could care less.
And I do not think she should be thrown under the bus due to some letter by "Charles".
She may not even know the guy.
And she just might be a decent woman.
but hell, that never stopped mass hysteria 'round here
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I don't what you read but I quoted and replied to the idiot that wrote the letter, not Jon Asher.
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04-28-2008, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Rex Lawler
I don't know for sure if I'd go there.
Jon is as lib as you get, as far as I have seen his politics displayed here.
and Ron D would sure back me up there.
I don't care what Asher writes and I don't care what "charles" writes.
he's got his panties in a wad for sure.
But a couple of the things he wrote I'd agree with.
And THAT should not bother anyone else here either, it's just my opinion.
All I do is look at the behavior displayed towards Ashleys win.
I mean, cripes.
Some people here will stick a pin in anything good done in the sport just out of their own cynical outlook on life.
I don't think anyone owes Danica a apology, shes a adult and probably could care less.
And I do not think she should be thrown under the bus due to some letter by "Charles".
She may not even know the guy.
And she just might be a decent woman.
but hell, that never stopped mass hysteria 'round here
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How in the world did Jon Asher get brought into this? 
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04-28-2008, 11:38 PM
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And here I thought it was the NASCAR fans that had all the passion. Who is this gent?
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04-29-2008, 12:14 AM
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I will agree with Rex and Charles that we have our share of whiners here on the 'Mater, but it is a drop in the bucket compared to NASCAR message boards. I would love to know if this Charles guy took the time to send his letter to any other board other than this one. The NASCAR boards have always been vehemently anti-Danica in particular and anti-women in general. This board was neither anti-Danica nor anti-woman, this board's issue was merely how the story was presented to the public at-large with the wording "Danica first ever to win major motorsports event" when it has be de riguer in the NHRA for 30 odd years. I also love how Charles justified his position by waiting on the AP wire. Anyone who knows anything about motorsports and responsible journalism should have known better than to follow the lead of that story. Lastly, Charles, if all any newspaper editor has to do is reprint the AP wire, why in the world do they need reporters?
To personally attack Shirley was dirty pool. Shirley may be cantankerous, but that doesn't change the fact that she did it first, not only winning races but THREE World Championships. I have only spoken to Shirley a few times, and she has always been pleasant though I have heard the stories about Shirley as we all have. I have spoken to Danica twice, and neither time was she pleasant or interested, once flatly refusing to autograph the hostess promotional box that had already been autographed by Melanie. Danica is no walk in the park either for beat reporters, copy editors or in Charles' estimation, AP wire writers.
The bottom line is this, real motorsports fans know the names Muldowney, Seeling/Savoie/Sampey, Troxel and Danica. It is the casual observers that are going to be reeled in by this bad headlining, and that is the largest area of growth potential for new fans. Can't blame the IRL for trying to get all the pub they could out of her winning, while trying to hedge out a potential competitor for those very folks being targeted, though I am sure NHRA was not on the IRL's radar, as the IRL also has a bad case of NASCAR envy. It takes away a little bit of the shine off your star to point out others who did it first in other venues after all.
Is Danica owed an apology by the 'Mater? Emphatically NO.
Should Maters be forced to apologize for lazy/irresponsible journalism? Emphatically NO.
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"...People who follow the NHRA expect the media to bow and scrape before your sport..."
Of course we expect the media to bow before our sport. After all, Drag Racing is the best form of Motorsports on the planet.
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04-29-2008, 12:19 AM
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Okay, Danica's words speak for themselves... Does she have the class of Ashley? Not even close. Please read this story from espn.com.
ESPN - Car lets down Patrick a week after breakthrough victory - Racing
I will say there are whiners, but that is everywhere. I will also say that the best in race section of dragracestats.com is pretty cool.
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04-29-2008, 02:47 AM
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You know the gears have to be turning to get her in NASCAR. Imagine her greeting if she gets in someone's way on a short track.
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04-29-2008, 03:54 AM
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who the #$%@ is Charles Everett??
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Exactly what I was thinking, why should I care what this a$$clown thinks?
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04-29-2008, 05:37 AM
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How in the world did Jon Asher get brought into this? 
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Uhhhhhh............."Chaz" ahem Charles mentions him with much disdain in the "letter".
He is referred to as a liar, and Charles is referred to here as a left wing nut job. I was meerly pointing out that both of them are "left wing nut jobs".
So what?
Try preperation H
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04-29-2008, 06:25 AM
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Hahahhaah! Stop it you guys! this is all so hilarious! My sides are aching! Hahahahahahahah!
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04-29-2008, 06:34 AM
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Re: Letter to Nitromater
Do we have Charles Everett's email address, so we can reply to the comments he said about Nitromater???? I think it would be nice to be able to have a discussion with him on the subject.....
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04-29-2008, 06:59 AM
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Who is this guy?
I take it he must read here. To bad he didn't have the stones the start his own thread.
Do we want the media to show us some love, of course. Do we "whine", sure do I guess. Turn on sports talk radio in any city across the country. People debating and discussing whatever sports issue there is. Is that whining? Thats what we do here but its about the sport we love.
Really all we want is honest coverage. Sure it would be nice if every Monday the front page had whatever that weekends race winner but its not going to happen. All I ask is that MR Charles and his contemporaries actually do a little fact checking and report the facts.
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