Alan.......Gee, lets not interject insight and common sense into all this.........

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ya know thats what I wonder how outside people perceive it.

I have a guy at work here who is a big nascar fan but will occasionally turn on nhra. I walk in this morning and he's at my office right away "so did ya see the dive"

Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. Personally I'm happy for her that she won. But the view from outsiders, ya know the ones we need to pull in to grab more sponsors. If they view it as a fix then its not a good highlight for the sport

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I, my Wife, and my Mom were all watching, and we all just thought Ashley simply won.

And were happy for her.

Guess this will always be suspect, and I suspect that neither Ash or Pop would EVER, NEVER, want it tainted nor perceived that way.

I feel it was heads up, fair and square, and no, I don't smoke nuttin'

drink either, all that stuff is for dunderheads.

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What did Bernie and Coil see that Lee missed or should it be the other way around.

Congrats to Ashley.

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Huh........human beings making errors.........or mechanical stuff malfunctioning.........NOPE, never happens,

OK, yeah, uh-huh.....

Now i see, absolute PROOF of a "Dive"

Boy, are you guys smart................

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it was nothing more than a business decision john force made to smoke the tires....drag racing right now to john force is business and he needed every square inch of it in order to pass the torch...

i love john dearly but his acting job didnt fool anyone.

I thought it was the best weekend of racing in years, throughout all of the classes.

Actually, I'm not sure if they smoked the tires on purpose or not, but he did sleep on the lights for her (a .170 light). Who cares if John actually let her win, as her father, most would have. She's earned her way to the head of the class all year long, it's not like she backed in to her first win.

This is real simple, the best car won yesterday. John was beat by the better car and I am sure he was not happy he lost.

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Geeeezzzzz..........another common sense statement.......

Youze guyz better cut that "nonsense" out........

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Let's just face the facts. Whenever two Force cars go up against each other and one driver is ahead of the other in points and wins when the other driver smokes the tires or leaves late, someone is going to instantly jump up and shout DIVE DIVE!!!!!

The only time that won't happen is when both cars cross the finish line dead even. Some people love to see something wrong no matter what happens.

Congrats to Ashley. You earned the win. Ignore the folks that just can't believe that you can win without help from your dad.

I'm getting old and can't remember everything, but I thought I heard Force say something to Coil asking about the possibility of smoking the tires. It was later in the coverage and Force was leaning on the drivers door of the Excursion. It sounded like he was pretty pissed that it happened. He also made the comment about how he would have liked to get the 1000th round win on the back of competing in his 500th race.

No matter what the outcome would have been, there would have been people pointing fingers and acusing the team of playing games.

Bob Tasca was on Fire throughout eliminations.

During the Semi's.....John knew the Kid was going to take no prisoners.

That was the round John HAD to go to work. That's what makes a great driver over the rest of good drivers...jmho.

BUT, If Only.................

I don't think that run against Head was a "clean run". She got out of the groove heading to the wall and reeled her back in across the lane and was getting pretty close to going into Head's lane and shut it off, I don't think she lost the belt. I thought she said that herself that she shut it off.
I wish the final would have been a close race like Top Fuel was, that would have been awesome to see Ashley beat her Dad on a holeshot.

I was the guy shaking my head 30 feet into the run!! I just wanted to see a good one.

Alan, when Eisenhower built I-85 I don't think it was intended as a weather barrier on RACEDAY. All the tuff stuff rolled around the back of the tower after 5.

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I was there and Johns reaction were for what everyone would think looked like a dive IMO and his light was like he was waiting for her to go first. Ashleys car was ripping style but her first win will be more accepted by her peers when she wins over someone else that is not paying her bills...There were not many fuel drivers that came to her pit to wish her congrats..
But overall they had the car to beat and w/ that left lane situation JF could have @ least made it to the transition part of the track before going up n smoke. Very obvious to most--