Conspiracy theorists...don't you think it all started when Capps blew the tires off in the semi finals againts her? Get a life.

It took John 9 years to win his first race, and I don't John wanted Ashley to think that winning an event should come easy or be handed to her no matter who she had to run in a final. Even if it was her dad.

In John's own words "We all have to pay our dues out here."

RG

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It's one of those "the whole JFR racing operation is happy if either one wins" type deals,why, as some of you IDIOTS say it was "scripted" is beyond me..Were you in Johns car?a number of things could of happen to make it go up in smoke.Don't you dare think for one minute John just blew His 1,000th rd. out the window. you naysayers.

She's got a top quality car with a top quality operation that is gonna win ALOT no matter what! Why throw a race so she can get her first of many?!

Well said, I think Force was PO'd cause he didn't get down the track and knew this might taint Ashley's first win. She'll get more.

Hey, I love Ashley! I just think she's an average driver. John is great driver who had a TIA on the last run. That's all I am saying.

yeah, naysayers bunch of morons. there's absolutely no way nhra would script this deal to ride danica's PR coattails. no way in hell they are so above that.

oh and one other thing - thanks marty reid - during the irl race he says something to the effect of you need to watch the nhra race today , after showing a side by side pic of danica and ashley. can't tell us exactly what went on, he says. Well what else would it be Mary. I mean seriously just tell us you think we're stupid. Just come out and say it. and then the whole build up to the final race I mean who do you think won.

maybe they grabbed a few extra viewers but they sure treated the loyal ones like dirt.

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Looked back over RT's the last couple of races, Ashley's are about mid pack and are within .005 generally of Tim Wilkerson.

Papa's car did the same thing in the left lane as Neff and Robert. Surprising that Ashley's car was the only JFR car to get down that lane yesterday. Throw out the first round single RT of .148, and the other three RTs were competitive.

Congrats to Ashley and Guido and the whole crew on their first win. And congrats for leaving the second straight race number 1 in the points.

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Any jury would find "reasonable doubt". Obviously nothing close to "total BS" as you alluded to. [quote]

If you're going to use the "reasonable doubt" analogy, that would mean that John would be found "not guilty". If a jury has a reasonable doubt, they must give a not guilty verdict, not a guilty one.

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John Force should get an Academy Award for that acting job after the race!

You know, the bottom line is this: We don't know and never will know whether it was "scripted" or not. Ashley won, and that's that!

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Exactly what I was thinking.....

ya know what folks there's really no way to prove this one way or the other. Each side can pile their evidence for or against this.

In the end lets not crap on anyones first ever win. It's her 4th final and 3rd this year. She was a win waiting to happen. She actually called this issue a few races ago when her and John made it to the semi's. She won to get into the finals and he didn't she said then that although she wanted him to win she was releived. Because if anything went wrong against him people would question it.

Congrats to Ashley and her team

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I cannot lie to you people... I too was ready to post something cynical here. But then I thought, you know what - it doesn't matter now - and who cares? And how the hell do I know what really happened? Any way you look at it, It's a great day for drag racing. I am proud of the Force family, and proud to be an NHRA fan. I come to you in peace.
One thing I will throw out, which I picked up on IMMEDIATELY during the morning show..... with all due respect, that girl needs to smile more. I think she smiled 4 times. I don't care what mood you're in, or how bad you slept..... when you're on national TV with sponsors like that.... you have to put on your happy face. I wondered if she even wanted to do the TV show, or was told to do it. But again, it doesn't matter now. I get the feeling we'll be seeing alot more wins from her.
Good job by team Force!

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Did he throw the final? Maybe, maybe not. Doesnt matter, Ash won and she's had the best car the last 3 races so it really doesnt matter. And I think he was really pissed on the top end. Nothing like I expected when she would win her first and how he'd react. And like has been previously stated, Neff and Hight before the final all did the same exact thing in the left lane, smoked'em right after applying the gas. And I'll be honest, if it were me I'd let her win.

Hmmm.........idiots? No, I don't think that is it.

Jealousy?
Envy?

The inane need to pick apart anything good in others successful, happy lives by spewing useless drivel to inflate their own sagging egos and compensate for their own moribund and cynical existances?

More like it methinks.

I remember when John was defeated at the Winters by Tim Grose, I cannot recall the exact year (CRS), it might have been 1986.
It was when Tim had to rip his goggles off during the run so he could see where he was going.
Anyhoo..... being interviewed at the top end after his one of many bridesmaid appearances in a final before his first win, I was struck by how much yesterdays and that long ago losers circle interview were almost exactly the same.
A driven individual that absolutely HATES to lose. John was not happy at all.

And the thought of the unacceptability of losing is enough to cast REASONABLE (unheard of by those of you who cannot reason) doubt that John threw the race.

Stuff...........happens.

And as far as the cameras following John around at the top end? And John acting? I would argue that if the cameras did that at each and every race or round or lousy qualifying effort or DNQ........ya' possibly might.......see somewhat worse. Just guessin'

In a post before mine Chris mentions that he was about to make a cynical comment, and thought the better of it. That is called wisdom in my book.

In closing I would like to paraphrase (quote would be the wrong term for me to use, as CRS is rearing its ugly head again this morning).......

A cynic has the unique ability to not only find fault in today and yesterday, but also to prematurely defeat himself in the future.

Gladly and by Gods Good Graces, I am NOT a cynic.
That is one bummer of a person to be around.
Especially for the cynic.

REX

Dittos.

I guess for anyone to really know.........

They would have to drag themselves up by their own bootstraps from an impoverished youth, scratch and claw their way up the ladder, never give up, become THE most prolific WINNER in drag racing history, run a very large and successful enterprise with little or no formal training, gain respect and admiration from your fans decade after decade, the respect from your competitors that is quite evident, loyalty from your team, raise very good and decent children, make them get an education themselves first and foremost, go through tremendous emotional and physical pain, make a heroic comeback, and wind up in that situation we wittnessed last night.

So in my book, any of you ballon popping sticks in the mud......want to accomplish all that, and tell me here and now EXACTLY what they would do, and how they would judge their own actions.......

Well......by all means.....

Be my guest.

REX