NHRA error...

#16 04-19-2008, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Toby Graham

Jim, I worked on the Winston Top Fuel car from 98 until Winston left the sport. I worked on Alans Funny Car too. Now I work with several top Pro Stock teams. Not beating my chest, I just want you to know that I am not sitting in the nose bleed section

I understand how you are protective of the brand you built. I just really think the press releases are just adding fuel to the fire. Do you really think Toyota's sales were affected by the fines from Daytona? Truthfully I can't remember if that was even this year or last, much less which team. I think the strength of the Toyota name more than superceded its team getting caught cheating. It would be interesting to poll every person in Atlanta that visits the Oakley trailer and find out how much of an impact was the televised announcement...the press releases..the print media and so forth.

Toby... please read my post. Cheap seats refers to no direct involvement... not nose-bleed seats.

And I could give a **** about the sales at the Rolling O... I don't like my friends wondering if we cheated. That is exactly what was in question the past two days.

(looks like you can't swear on this forum)

Toby... my rant is not directed at you. If it seems so, I apologize. I'm just very frustrated.

Jim

#17 04-19-2008, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Toby Graham

In my opinion the press releases from the involved parties explaining their sides are probably reinforcing the image of cheating a hell of alot more than the knee jerk reaction by NHRA and the televised announcement.

Toby, this is a great thing, this America.
Diverse Populace and all, regional uniqueness..........
I must admit we are a feeling bunch here in the midwest,
we allow most of all the quaint differences of simple people.

#18 04-19-2008, 02:33 AM

Jim, I have something I would like you to see that my company, Dr Flames makes, could you pm me with a e-mail address, thanks, mark

#19 04-19-2008, 02:47 AM

I think it shows a lack of class that NHRA made a public remark!
Not only did it throw Don under a bus it pretty much threw everyone involved with DSR under the same bus and that sucks...

#20 04-19-2008, 03:10 AM

Implying that HLM reg's are the reason for price increases is just not right, this latest grandstand move with the media was big mistake, good luck Don and Jim with your fight.

#21 04-19-2008, 08:44 AM

This stuff is why I have such a big nerve anytime I see anyone post anything negative about someone's personal integrity/intentions without having 100% correct reason to. I didn't just fall off the turnip truck. I think you can and should be skeptical and cautious in your mind all you want but, you don't do it publicly.

Once you cross that line, YOU'RE the one with the bad intentions.

#22 04-19-2008, 09:19 AM

I couldn't care less about what comes out of Glendora these days. For the past few years, it's been one CF after another. NHRA does not drive the sport. It's should be about the racers, the fans, and the sponsors. The folks at NHRa have forgotten about anyone that doesn't put a dollar in their pockets. It's time for a change. And right now, just about any change would make things better.

After everything positive DSR, his teams, and his sponsors have done for the sport, why do they keep messing with him?

#23 04-19-2008, 09:22 AM

Just curious, when NASCAR fines a team they say the money goes into a fund and is is distributed back to the teams through some kind of system at the end of the year. Where does the money go from an NHRA fine?
And I think in the long run this has hurt NHRA more than it will DSR or Oakley. They both show much more class and credibility than NHRA.

#24 04-19-2008, 09:37 AM

after nearly a week of reading comments on this topic, i still feel the same
way i did when watching the broadcast last sunday........
the race is same day, tape delayed with minimal time between
"live" final rounds and beginning of broadcast.
what part of the day did NHRA decide G. Light's accusation would be
part of the show?, or did they decide earlier in weekend and planned
for this charade?
for the amount of speculation surrounding this story, it is quite amazing
(maybe unprofessional is a better word) that NHRA would not only make
this statement publicy, but worse do it on primetime television.

#25 04-19-2008, 09:45 AM

Jim

I am sure you are frustrated for sure, by no means am I discounting that. My only contention is that this 'Nitrogate' as it has been termed has been kept alive by the press releases.

No offense taken at all. I am sure you are pissed about it and I took your replies as just having a conversation. That is one of the drawbacks of these forums. When we read others posts, we automatically imply negative emotions and sarcasm gets lost. That is one of the few things I remember from taking 'Intro to Communications' twice in college, lol.

Have good weekend

Toby

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Originally Posted by Jim Jannard

Toby... please read my post. Cheap seats refers to no direct involvement... not nose-bleed seats.

And I could give a **** about the sales at the Rolling O... I don't like my friends wondering if we cheated. That is exactly what was in question the past two days.

(looks like you can't swear on this forum)

Toby... my rant is not directed at you. If it seems so, I apologize. I'm just very frustrated.

Jim

#26 04-19-2008, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Terry Yonts

Just curious, when NASCAR fines a team they say the money goes into a fund and is is distributed back to the teams through some kind of system at the end of the year. Where does the money go from an NHRA fine?

It goes into the Compton/Light yearly bonus account.

#27 04-19-2008, 12:31 PM

Fines are easy to pay, then they go away.
Reputations are priceless, good or bad, .........priceless.
I personally have never met Jim, but being a business owner I respect what he has accomplished with Oakley. We work your a$$es off for years to build solid reputations, it doesn't just happen over night.
Jim has decided to spend HIS money in this sport and at the same time put his reputation as a businessman in full view of everyone. It's a very short sided opinion to say it really doesn't matter, it will just go away. No, it doesn't just go away. The buying public might forgive, but they don't forget.
Jim has a right to be pissed.

Fire in the hole!

#28 04-19-2008, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenneth Skloss

It goes into the Compton/Light yearly bonus account.

Probably have to find a way to pay for the Bentley after the HD deal went in the toilet.......

(Not making fun of your situation Don, as it is a serious matter...but taking a fair shot at Light's Out and Compton..)

#29 04-19-2008, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Toby Graham

Jim

I am sure you are frustrated for sure, by no means am I discounting that. My only contention is that this 'Nitrogate' as it has been termed has been kept alive by the press releases.

Toby

Toby..I'm glad it's being kept alive..by whatever means.

Jim has every right to be upset..and he gave his reasons why. Complete and utter nonsense the way this has been handled. I'd like to see it stay at the front until it is made right.
We've heard from Don, Alan and now Jim. The way NHRA handled this directly affects these individuals at a personal level..and I hope NHRA gets b!tchslapped over this.

#30 04-19-2008, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Jones

Jim, I have something I would like you to see that my company, Dr Flames makes, could you pm me with a e-mail address, thanks, mark

Coulda PM'd him by clicking on his name and getting the drop down list.