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01-23-2008, 02:39 PM
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Re: 4 Lane 'drag Strip'
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Okay.....then when should the lane that gets oiled get cleaned, after the session? That would foul up the entire show, lane choice wouldn't mean squat! 
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Quite the opposite I would think. The differential could potentially be huge between the good lane and a "green but clean" lane. Also, if you think like Bruton, you could have more equipment available and clean multiple lanes in the same amount of time that it currently takes to clean one. After you finish your live for TV  session, everyone knows it is intermission time (clean the track)and goes to the beer stand. 
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01-23-2008, 03:28 PM
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Re: 4 Lane 'drag Strip'
Everyone's ignoring the question I asked. Who wants to be standing near the finish line on one side sweeping up quick-dry while this is going on in the next set of lanes?
How often would that have to happen before people think that just maybe this isn't such a hot idea after all? 
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01-23-2008, 04:19 PM
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Re: 4 Lane 'drag Strip'
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Everyone's ignoring the question I asked. Who wants to be standing near the finish line on one side sweeping up quick-dry while this is going on in the next set of lanes?
How often would that have to happen before people think that just maybe this isn't such a hot idea after all? 
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Oil downs don't happen that often and now sportsman will have blankets as well.
The problem your talking about won't happen unless there are oil downs in both lanes on same side, then the race will be held up.
Brutons thinking is promoting a live race on prime time TV and I think he can pull it off. 
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01-23-2008, 05:47 PM
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Re: 4 Lane 'drag Strip'
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Originally Posted by David N Gawboy
Everyone's ignoring the question I asked. Who wants to be standing near the finish line on one side sweeping up quick-dry while this is going on in the next set of lanes?
How often would that have to happen before people think that just maybe this isn't such a hot idea after all? 
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Great thought. First off, hope nobody gets hit!!! Then the Safety Safari would have all the clean-up stuff out there and then have to snap into rescue mode; not good.
I realize that many believe that Bruton has some great ideas and thats fine. True, he does some awesome things and has done well with his Nascar stuff. However, Drag Racing ain't Nascar!!! I hate to say it but oil downs are just part of the deal when it comes to Drag Racing. Bruton wants to keep the show rolling no matter what, so this is what he came up with? Let's change one detail about this plan. What if instead of an oil down there is a serious accident and time is critical. Is Bruton gonna tell the next pair to just move over a lane and keep racing (while the injured driver is being work on) because the show must go on? They're gonna tell him to stick it. You have to be practical when creating new ideas. As far as the Live TV deal, yeah right! Who's gonna air it, ESPN? You think ESPN is gonna show Live Drag Racing instead of their big buck Nascar event? HA!!! How many commercials on ESPN do you see currently promoting the NHRA broadcasts? Why would they hype it just because it's Live? Do people think just because it's Live more will watch it? I doubt it. I'm all for new ideas in Drag Racing, but I just can't see how this could be done safely.
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01-23-2008, 07:04 PM
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Re: 4 Lane 'drag Strip'
Sorry but I do not see this happening, TOO MUCH LIABILITY!!! Lets look at safety, the only thing that matters. At my job, when we have a 1050 P.I. (personal injury) rescue, on the interstate with entrapment, it can be a nightmare. When you have crews from a engine company, heavy rescue squad, truck company and paramedic unit working to cut a person out of a vehicle, it's bad enough with cars and trucks going by at 65+ MPH, so we shut the road down. It's enough stress to get that person out the entrapment, into the helicopter and off to Shock Trauma, you don't need vehicles going by at 65+MPH. Now, yes the safety guys at the NHRA may have that concrete wall between them, but on the other side are two race cars going alot faster than 65MPH.
Then, like Joe Sherwood said, what are the crew chiefs going to do when they may have to run in a lane that's unknown. It's all about SAFETY, everyone goes home healthy and safe at the end of the day!!!
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01-23-2008, 07:17 PM
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Re: 4 Lane 'drag Strip'
What if instead of an oil down there is a serious accident and time is critical. Is Bruton gonna tell the next pair to just move over a lane and keep racing (while the injured driver is being work on) because the show must go on? As far as the Live TV deal, yeah right! Who's gonna air it, ESPN? You think ESPN is gonna show Live Drag Racing instead of their big buck Nascar event? HA!!! How many commercials on ESPN do you see currently promoting the NHRA broadcasts? Why would they hype it just because it's Live? Do people think just because it's Live more will watch it? I doubt it. I'm all for new ideas in Drag Racing, but I just can't see how this could be done safely.
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OK, you want to be realistic. Just this year ESPN showed several hours of INDY live and it was great. I know people in TV and if they could offer a live broadcast of Drag Racing the commercials would come. As far as how many people would watch time would only tell but I think you would be surprise when the count came in.
I don't see safety being a issue, the race would be run the same as it is know and NHRA safety record can't be beat.
Now if for some unfortunate racer would wreck and get seriously hurt they would stop the race just like they would in NASCAR. With NHRA record there's a 99% chance that's not likely to happen. I say if you were to take a vote from the racers the majority would say go for it. 
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01-23-2008, 08:49 PM
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Re: 4 Lane 'drag Strip'
It's more likely that the strategy would be to switch to the second pair of lanes if there was an oildown - and possibly to alternate pairs if there's no oildown in order to keep them as close to the same as possible.
It's still a crew chief's nightmare - instead of trying to keep up with two lanes, they would have to try to "book" four lanes and make last-minute changes depending on which pair they end up running. But it would let them complete a round and start the turnaround clock before starting a cleanup, a definite plus if you are looking for live TV coverage.
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01-23-2008, 11:55 PM
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Re: 4 Lane 'drag Strip'
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Would you have one or two winners per round? 
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Nobody's anwering this one. I think it'd be wild to watch four modern pro cars of any class go down the track at the same time. There's your countdown! 16 cars run each other 4 at a time. One winner from each session. One final round of four cars, one winner takes all. Two sessions to run 16 cars! At LEAST it wouldn't cost so much to win a drag race in terms of runs. I bet specators would feel like they got less for their money, though. They'd spend less time watching cars run.
LOL, that, or 16 lanes, one first/final round, winner take all. Hey, I can imagine!
I think you'd have to clean an oiled down lane just like you do now. Like Ian asked. You can't have one guy having to beat only two other cars if everyone else has to beat three.
Would the lanes really be equal if two backup lanes just sat there without cars running them for hours?
As far as four lanes being equal to each other. Hey, you can't get two lanes equal to each other now so, what would be the difference?
As far as being able to test each lane with qualifying runs now. I'm sure the lanes you run in on Friday and Saturday aren't always the same when you come back to run on them again on Sunday.
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01-24-2008, 08:48 AM
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Re: 4 Lane 'drag Strip'
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Everyone's ignoring the question I asked. Who wants to be standing near the finish line on one side sweeping up quick-dry while this is going on in the next set of lanes?
How often would that have to happen before people think that just maybe this isn't such a hot idea after all? 
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I think you all have missed an opportunity here... think drag-zamboni...   
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01-24-2008, 09:45 PM
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Re: 4 Lane 'drag Strip'
Put some stands IN THE MIDDLE of the four lanes! There's your high dollar seats! 
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01-24-2008, 09:53 PM
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Re: 4 Lane 'drag Strip'
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Didn't 42 have four lanes or am I thinking of another track?
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Yes, Dragway 42 became the "World's Only 4 Lane Drag Strip" in 1967.
It was four Lanes (2 - 2 Lane Tracks separated by a guardrail) with one side dedicated to "hot cars" while the other side ran stockers, sportsmen, etc.
Both pairs of lanes had their own Christmas tree but their was only a single pair of score boards. The scoreboards indicated either 1, 2, 3, or 4 to indicate which 2 lanes won from the two pairs.
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01-25-2008, 01:43 AM
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Re: 4 Lane 'drag Strip'
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There was a track in Md. that ran a few early- mid 70's F/C shows 4 wide as well, but I think it was only burnouts; racing was still 2 cars...
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That would be MIR and not only burnouts, they raced 4 wide.
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