TAD and the PRESS or the lack there of!

#16 01-22-2008, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Flies

All I will say about TAD is TARA.

Paul, I've been in contact with many of the TARA folks. All the minutes, bylaws, itinery's and agendas will be here any day so that we can review and see what needs to be updated, revised etc.......

Hopefully, this can work in conjunction with the new advisory committee, and we can put together a cohesive program that will ensure more visability and win/win solutions for both sides, business and competition.

It takes time though, and I know many are frustrated and feel they have already put in their time, that's okay, now we just have to rethink and make our proposals with renewed hope, effort and creativity.

#17 01-22-2008, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Nancy Matter

Hi Guy, sure do miss ya racing :-)

You guys, I can help, I really can.

I had to cut my last post short, but once a template is established for a press document, it's really easy to change up, cut & paste.

I've been doing them for quite a few racers, for two reasons.

I see some of the things you guys are mentioning here, AND I got tired of only seeing in general, the wealthy getting press, usually (not to stereo type anyone, so don't take this the wrong way but...) family money that was given rather than earned with little driving experience or skill for that matter and usually no mechanical skills. (obviously this comment is not to slam anyone, just stating reality as we all know who has worked their butts off and who hasn't)

The only way to change it, is to change it. It's kind of like an Indie Artist trying to get recognized by a Major Record Label. They finally threw up their hands and hense Tailgate Sales was born. That got attention, believe me.

I continually research different avenues of exposure Globally, and it takes time, but over time, it pays off. I'll help anyone if you want, but we can do it, it's just a little more work. No BAD JU JU Guys!!! Happy New Years, Remember?

Nancy what about videotaping eliminations and qualifying and creating a sort of on line delayed or archived broadcast of that? Sort of a google video channel ( google because they allow over 10 min videos) This could be division events and nationals or other events where they allow you to tape where it isn't already covered by another network. Maybe a new Internet domain can be dedicated to it as a portal to those videos. Chris Demke put some of his personal videos on line and I was impressed! How cool would that be to see round after round of that? Nancy you mention independent artists in the music industry. They are moving on line with Internet radio now for exposure. I think Internet video is a tool which should be explored. Start with teams who video tape their runs if they would like to share that video to test the waters. Eventually get a videographer to volunteer or donate to videotape qualifying or elimination sessions. Add subtitles or overdub comentary later. David Smith has done a tremendous amout of work promoting the alcohol ranks because of his love of the sport. Maybe he would be interested in taking video?

#18 01-22-2008, 11:31 AM

I think it's a GREAT idea and Cost Effective. This is some of the modern technology that I think we can propose as a group. Another great person (and I love David as well) for this is Larry PFister with Horsepower Heaven. This is what he does and he has done many DVD's for racers and live stuff with interviews etc........

Demke's was good wasn't it?

#19 01-22-2008, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Nancy Matter

Paul, I've been in contact with many of the TARA folks. All the minutes, bylaws, itinery's and agendas will be here any day so that we can review and see what needs to be updated, revised etc.......

Hopefully, this can work in conjunction with the new advisory committee, and we can put together a cohesive program that will ensure more visability and win/win solutions for both sides, business and competition.

It takes time though, and I know many are frustrated and feel they have already put in their time, that's okay, now we just have to rethink and make our proposals with renewed hope, effort and creativity.

Nancy, last I heard, TARA ended after Shelly Howard passed away, Shelly was the drving force behind TARA and without her, NOTHING happened.

#20 01-22-2008, 12:28 PM

Hehe... Al, thats a great idea... One that I had been planning on doing with Nancy this coming year, she just didn't know it :-D!! Every run recorded and posted online so people can see... I have one super comp video online that has hit nearly 6,000 views... Imagine having 5 of those for every race... Thats 30,000 views per race, and I'm sure a F/C would get even more hits as opposed to a S/C...

CJ Curtsinger

#21 01-22-2008, 04:59 PM

so much for surprises CJ

Anyway, Paul, I know about the "disbanding" sort of, of TARA.

I've had many, many, Many requests about revisiting it and maybe even spear heading it back to life. But it can't happen without revisions nor can it happen without support, and not just from the Alky class. So I have to see all the info before any intelligent comments can really be made about it.

:-)

#22 01-22-2008, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Sherwood

Writing Press releases and mailing them out are great IF your racing! Trying to find sponsorship while your car's parked is kinda tough. Ask Dean Skuza...

Joe,
Maybe people misunderstood my original thread. I'm not looking for press for me to gain sponsorship. It was about my semi-pro brothern and lack of press for them as I am not running at this point. I was there with a good friend of mine D7 and number 5 in the world TAD Duane Shields.....

Again this was to question the lack of press for the 3rd fastest class in the world not for me!!!

KB

#23 01-22-2008, 06:20 PM

Hey Kevin, I hear what you're saying for sure.

I feel the need to repost this and revise it a little as I received a pretty negative PM from someone and hopefully this will answer their question.

Paul, I've been in contact with many of the TARA folks. All the minutes, bylaws, itinery's and agendas will be here any day so that we can review and see what needs to be updated, revised etc.......

Hopefully, this can work in conjunction with the new NHRA Sportsman advisory committee, and we can put together a cohesive program that will ensure more visability and win/win solutions for both sides, business and competition. Please note, this is Team Work and there are no "I's" in the word Team.

It takes time though, and I know many are frustrated and feel they have already put in their time, that's okay, maybe now we just have to rethink and make our proposals with renewed hope, effort and creativity since we've experienced so many rule changes over the last 4 years.

The main thing is, there are no guarantee's. Racing is our drug of choice. And I know from many of the conversation's that I've had from some of the former members of TARA (who are in 100% support of revisiting this iniative) they did get things accomplished with NHRA and there were results. With Shelly's untimely death (R.I.P), as a Group, I personally would like to try again in Honor of her name. Now does that mean it will be TARA or SRAC? (Sportsman Racer's Advisory Committee) SRAC to me looks like we can have thousands of sportsman racer's input rather than representation from our class only of which I started participating in, hmmm, oh yeah, back in the seventies as a kid with the Gasparrelli Family. (quite contrary to the PM that I received).

I hope that we can all work together towards solutions and maybe get some of the people who have "Quit" racing for whatever reason, back to the track and with a positive outlook for the future.

#24 01-22-2008, 06:58 PM

Gee Nancy... I've recieved negative comments in the past... Same group of people?

CJ Curtsinger

#25 01-22-2008, 07:08 PM

I don't know CJ, I'm not going to tell anyone who it is, maybe that person is just having a bad day

#26 01-22-2008, 10:59 PM

I have a dumb question... but, here goes... First, u-tube is already a video format that is there... why not create a site that links the ladders with the videos and use the formats that are already available? Or would that be too slow. Are we talking continuous loops of video or single sets of runs?

#27 01-22-2008, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Georginna Polson

I have a dumb question... but, here goes... First, u-tube is already a video format that is there... why not create a site that links the ladders with the videos and use the formats that are already available? Or would that be too slow. Are we talking continuous loops of video or single sets of runs?

Georginna, check post #17 it addresses that very thing about Youtube!

#28 01-22-2008, 11:08 PM

Hey Georginna, no question is a dumb question

#29 01-22-2008, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Sherwood

Georginna, check post #17 it addresses that very thing about Youtube!

Thank's. I apparently needed to read slower...

Definitely a long day. I have to quit working so hard...lol

Thank you as well Nancy.

Nite everyone!

#30 01-23-2008, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin Brown

Joe,
Maybe people misunderstood my original thread. I'm not looking for press for me to gain sponsorship. It was about my semi-pro brothern and lack of press for them as I am not running at this point. I was there with a good friend of mine D7 and number 5 in the world TAD Duane Shields.....

Again this was to question the lack of press for the 3rd fastest class in the world not for me!!!

Kevin,

Maybe you misunderstood my reply to your parent note.

Vegas was an unsanctioned test session. How much "press" did the first and second fastest classes in the world get? Not much. ...and those that did, why did they get it....?

I know you aren't currently racing TAD. I fully enjoy the alky classes and understand that (in most cases) the main reason this group of racers is considered to be semi-pro is because very few of them race full-time for a living. Cubic dollars are the name of the game at every level in this sport.

There's nothing wrong with those who can afford to run in these classes out of their own pockets and do so while gaining sponsor funding because of their performance and presence. The "press" they get for the most part is performance and/or sponsor based. They generate it, one way or another. It may be small scale compared to the Pro's, but it really isn't a secret as to how they do it.

Again, I enjoy the alky classes. Those that I have met in these classes (Hi Nancy!) are all top shelf. But, my being part of the media whose product is relatively devoted to die-hard fans, I can tell you that your friends racing today need to do more on their own to get any "ink" outside of the currently available results coverage.

I'm trying to help. I really am!

TAD and the PRESS or the lack there of!

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