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01-17-2008, 04:42 PM
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Re: Save NHRA - Go Back To Its Roots
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No Sportsman at Nat’s.
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The title of this topic is Save NHRA - Go Back To Its Roots, sportsman racing at NHRA events is its roots.
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01-17-2008, 04:48 PM
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Re: Save NHRA - Go Back To Its Roots
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i'm definatly against any form of handicapping in the pro ranks. this would be like affirmative action.
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Lance, that's the ladder I grew up with, no 'easy' rounds...
1 vs 9 2 vs 10
5 vs 13 6 vs 14
7 vs 15 8 vs 16
3 vs 11 4 vs 12
The ladder we use now is way more top loaded toward the quicker car... know your roots... it was what was used before we went to the second points system after they took fuel cars away from divisional events... when you earned your right to be invited to the World Finals... a one shot race for all the marbles... before they invented the Affirmative Action of our last points system... when you could run as many qualifying laps as you could drag your mess back into line... heck, I remember people fueling and running the valves in the staging lanes.... all this back before we got our last Charity System.
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01-17-2008, 06:00 PM
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Re: Save NHRA - Go Back To Its Roots
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When would I have time to go to the bathroom?
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Depends.
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01-17-2008, 06:22 PM
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Re: Save NHRA - Go Back To Its Roots
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When would I have time to go to the bathroom?
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Not just the bathroom-walk the pits and get lunch?
If it wasn't for throttle-stop racing at the National Events I'd never see any of our buddies thrashing in between rounds?
The sportsmen also fund the entire event so the spectator ticket sales could provide more gravy for the potatoes (& suits.)
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01-17-2008, 08:15 PM
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Re: Save NHRA - Go Back To Its Roots
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who would the NHRA charge $220+ to enter? QUOTE]
Last time I checked it was $250 (except Indy $350) plus $40 per competitor (all competitor's) for insurance
Then credentials for each crew member, spouse etc. unless you have a gold or silver card. Bronze car allows driver + 1, then credential costs of anywhere from $75 each to $90 each (Indy) which covers the weekend for racing.
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OK. one driver and two crew and their girlfriends and the ...wait I got my shoes off.. Carry the one plus 350 and then ... O'Hell thats hurts...
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01-17-2008, 09:32 PM
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Re: Save NHRA - Go Back To Its Roots
[quote=Nancy Matter;116911]
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Originally Posted by shawn brown
who would the NHRA charge $220+ to enter? QUOTE]
Last time I checked it was $250 (except Indy $350) plus $40 per competitor (all competitor's) for insurance
Then credentials for each crew member, spouse etc. unless you have a gold or silver card. Bronze car allows driver + 1, then credential costs of anywhere from $75 each to $90 each (Indy) which covers the weekend for racing.
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If you enter more than one car, you can use the drivers credential for a crew member, but you have to let them know at the credential trailder because of the "non-transferable rule" that goes into effect with the restricted area waiver.
Don't forget the extra fee for the extra ATVs or pit bikes, plus parking passes for your rig and tow vehicle.
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01-18-2008, 08:40 AM
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Re: Save NHRA - Go Back To Its Roots
Hey Doc, not to derail the thread, but don't you think a modern FC with a big-time tuner could get a AA/FA into the 4's after a bit of tweaking? Didn't the guys out of Phoenix run low 5's (Neese & Knowles)? The modern AA/FA is a FC anyway, but without the swoopy FC body, I'm sure they become a handful due to downforce & stability issues.
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01-18-2008, 10:33 AM
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Re: Save NHRA - Go Back To Its Roots
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Hey Doc, not to derail the thread, but don't you think a modern FC with a big-time tuner could get a AA/FA into the 4's after a bit of tweaking? Didn't the guys out of Phoenix run low 5's (Neese & Knowles)? The modern AA/FA is a FC anyway, but without the swoopy FC body, I'm sure they become a handful due to downforce & stability issues.
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I think the number is a 5.29 about 3-years ago or so. I am pretty sure they did that at Tulsa. I don't remember the MPH. It was the same car as their Nitro Funnycar with-out the body.
Last summer the Howell AA/FA from California went a 5.37, with Dale Pulde and Mark Leigh tuning it.
Those are the record/stellar numbers that I know of.
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01-18-2008, 12:43 PM
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Re: Save NHRA - Go Back To Its Roots
My opinion…
NHRA pre-1985 or so…
The management, for the most part consisted of folks that had raced, or were race fans, or had actually attended a race or two BEFORE they became employees.
NHRA post – 1985 or so to the present.
The management, for the most part is made up of folks that have never raced, was never race fans and in some cases (according to intro of new employees in the Dragster) NEVER even attended a drag race BEFORE they became employees.
Why do you think the Hot Rod Reunion style races are so popular? It is not because people want to see fuel cars running 6.50’s and it is not because someone wants to see a flopper that actually looks like the car model it claims to be. No, they are popular because of the atmosphere. I recall my first reunion race. It was Bowling Green 2003. I thought I had gone back into time somehow. The cackle-fest Saturday night was special….I saw a lot of tears in people’s eyes, including my own….and they were not created by the nitro fumes either.
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01-18-2008, 09:04 PM
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Re: Save NHRA - Go Back To Its Roots
32 cars at the new england funny car nationals worked for me when I was a teenager.
And at that race, every car made three runs, by contract. That's right, we had three rounds of 16 fuel funny car races. Even though the second and third runs for most of them was exhibition.
It was heaven on earth.
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