this is a discussion board about the NHRA and we are discussing a change the NHRA is proposing about how racers are going to qualify for a race. Several of us aren't exactly happy with what is proposed and are voicing our opinions about it (freedom of speech and all that). There have been postings on this thread that are positive about the changes as well.

If you aren't happy with the content that is posted here, then start your own message board where you can sing praises to the NHRA all day long.

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Ok so 1-12 on Friday qualifying have a for sure spot for Sunday...
Everyone in 13th spot on has their times erased...

Saturday everyone but 1-12 battle out for 13-16 spot..

I can see pros and cons to this...Friday will be interesting because its just like before...everyone fighting for a spot...

How boring it might be for Saturday qualifying if 12 cars decide, aw the hell with it we are already guranteed a spot lets not make a pass (and with money being tight in a lot of camps i see this happening)...

We'll assume that the field is pretty close on Friday night..this could come to bite a bunch of people in the ass like already mentioned (13-16)...

Then again, it gives 4 people a chance to get in on a different day BUT somedays Saturday qualifying changed everything around and made the show that much better so its not going to be any easier coming out Saturday to fight for 4 spots when you came out on Friday trying to fight for 16 spots and couldnt get in the top 12. hmmm..

This is the way I understood it, correct me if Im wrong and I probably am!

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Surely this still doesn't address the importance of Friday quals. I though this was to take the pressure off of needing to do a good run in the primo night conditions. I guess I have missed the point?

My thinking was take for instance Chicago last year where the bump was a 4.59 now the crew chiefs won't have to go for a mid 50 when there's no way the track will hold that kind of number. I'm not thrilled with this format (I would have preferred a late afternoon/early evening Saturday session) but it's better than giving provisionals to the top 10 or averaging the four qualifying runs together. The other point I was making was that at least there was a problem with the qualifying format that they are trying to address, whereas there was nothing wrong with the points system. I guess when it comes to Glendora I've adopted the theory expect the worse and when you get anything less it seems better than it really is.

I think it stinks.

The pussification of drag racing continues...news at 11.

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Yeah - what T said. I just don't understand why there can't be a Saturday night session. If you have a problem on Friday, this should even things out.
I'm happy for all of you have this figured out, because it looks to me that this opens the door for more "interpretation". It's probably fully explained in the Policy Manual - which is not available to NHRA members or racers.

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BINGO! If a team slips up during Friday night qualifying and can't make the program on Saturday, then they don't belong racing on Sunday.

What's next? Mulligans?

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I wonder now if this was a direct result of what happened at Indy this year. Lets call it the Litton-Zizzo rule. We wouldn't want those guys from the other side screwing up our COUNTDOWN.

Assuming the provisionals are set after the 3rd Q at Indy...

13-16 were Litton, Zizzo, Bradshaw and Millican. Out were Bernstein, Bazemore, Todd, Kalitta and others. If this were in place then 13-16 would have ended up Millican, Bazemore, Kalitta, Hartley and out were Litton (career best 4.57), Zizzo (career best 4.57) and Bradshaw. Millican who ran just slower than his #16-4.59 at 4.61 actually would have moved up by running slower. That whole scenario just ain't right. To say after 3 shots at Indy you get a new life cause the weather got warm is crap. Everyone gets the same chance.

Here's a philosophy for ya if you are a "budget" team; sit out Friday and take your shot in 2 attempts on Saturday for 4 remaining spots. Great idea if there are only 12-13 "good" cars and the rest are of lesser or equal ability to you.

I could rant more but it won't do me no good here!!!!!!

Just reread it again....

The top twelve are not locked in... Primo weather on saturday and it's business as usual... that may come into play early and late in the season... heat of the summer or a one lane track, we might just have the first 5 pairs running for the last 4 spots... still think we're going to have as many smokers and surprise dnq's as last year, maybe even more...

d'kid

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That's true! But in the case of Indy last year after 3 rounds of Q the track and weather deteriorated on Sunday and those "insert big name" cars that couldn't figure it out after 3 would have gotten in with this rule and those that ran exceptionally well (not just OK) in the first 3 would have gotten bumped. That's wrong.

i feel sick. NASCAR is starting to make sense to me.
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Terry....check your PM's, my friend.

All they have to do is add a second portable TV screen or use the existing one that they already use on the top end. They could have the times up when not running replays and change it to each respective class when they're running. Not hard at all and in no way massive or dangerous.

Because, as we have seen too much of in recent years, the weather can be a mutha****in *****...and it can put good cars and drivers on the sidelines.. This actually may be a good idea out of Glendora...

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Why don't they just let murf mckinney pick the field and assign each car a spot as he sees fit ?????