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Old 11-29-2007, 02:26 PM
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New NHRA TF chassis spec.

A report on the new chassis spec for Top Fuel. FC spec yet to come.
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:38 PM
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Re: New NHRA TF chassis spec.

With Long and Meyer gone from the committee, among a couple others, I'm sceptical(sp?) it's adequate and hope that the TF fields survive 'til it's implemented! I hope it's not a band-aid on top of band-aids.

Yrs truly is speaking for sure, with emotion, but with a lot of inside knowledge as to what's been going on.

Call Long, Meyer and Bill Miller- they're all in the phone books and order the spec from SFI then draw your own conclusion!.
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Old 11-29-2007, 08:51 PM
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Re: New NHRA TF chassis spec.

Some very disturbing quotes from Brad Hadman, including "*******rized" and
"I just don't trust them." We have no idea who came up with SFI Spec 2.3N and if any science or engineering was applied. I'm not sure what "sleeves" are, but if they stiffen the area between roll cage and engine, stress will transfer to the next failure point.
And then . . . there are the quotes about FC bracing. It's gonna be very interesting to see what shows up at Firebird in seven weeks!
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Old 11-29-2007, 09:10 PM
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With Long and Meyer gone from the committee, among a couple others, I'm sceptical(sp?) it's adequate and hope that the TF fields survive 'til it's implemented! I hope it's not a band-aid on top of band-aids.

Yrs truly is speaking for sure, with emotion, but with a lot of inside knowledge as to what's been going on.

Call Long, Meyer and Bill Miller- they're all in the phone books and order the spec from SFI then draw your own conclusion!.
Easy Norm; It won't do any good to call me, I've been "invalidated" remember?

I have just gained a lot more respect for Brad Hadman though, after reading the last couple sentences!!!
He ought to be careful though, some people I know were looked down on for having differing opinions.
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Old 11-29-2007, 09:39 PM
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Easy Norm; It won't do any good to call me, I've been "invalidated" remember?

I have just gained a lot more respect for Brad Hadman though, after reading the last couple sentences!!!
He ought to be careful though, some people I know were looked down on for having differing opinions.
Thanks Bob. Brad could have remained silent and waited for rush orders to pour in. Instead, we get some real input. Respect? You bet!
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Old 11-29-2007, 10:06 PM
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Re: New NHRA TF chassis spec.

Didn't want to put you on the spot Bob, but your expertise is what I was referring folks to.

By the by -the new N spec is TEN Dollars more than all the rest!
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Old 11-30-2007, 11:12 AM
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By the by -the new N spec is TEN Dollars more than all the rest!
Maybe to cover the extra cost of FEA designed ulcer medicine.
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:03 PM
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HOT DIGGITY SH*#!!!! Now we can order a new chassis, NON HEAT TREATED
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Re: New NHRA TF chassis spec.

I got the new f/c spec on order, I'm real curious about all the changes besides the bigger, thicker tubing main rails.
On another note: A good friend of mine has been in the air force as a weldor for 10 years, and a weldor in the aerospace industry for 20 years, and I told him about the heat treating business that was done before welding, all he said was "stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid". He also said the only time you heat treat is after welding, and you do not want to heat treat anything that is exposed to severe vibration, we've all seen what happens when that occurs.
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HOT DIGGITY SH*#!!!! Now we can order a new chassis, NON HEAT TREATED
Wait a minute! Brad is already building yours, isn't he? . . . now that he knows what he's required to build?
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Old 12-01-2007, 06:25 PM
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Re: New NHRA TF chassis spec.

Subject to this matter: read the "Friday Feedback" about Tubular Tales @ comp plus.
A very well worded letter from a metalurgist, Terry Pehrson who has put thoughts very similar to mine that I can't ever seem to spit out.

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Old 12-01-2007, 07:10 PM
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Subject to this matter: read the "Friday Feedback" about Tubular Tales @ comp plus.
A very well worded letter from a metalurgist, Terry Pehrson who has put thoughts very similar to mine that I can't ever seem to spit out.

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Torco Racing Fuel's Competition Plus.com - Drag Racing's Internet Magazine - FEEDBACK FRIDAY - TUBULAR TULES - AN INVESTIGATIVE STORY
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Now I know why they call you the Doctor, Thanks for the proper link.
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Old 12-01-2007, 08:12 PM
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The "Current" vs "Braced" graphics in the article (provided by McKinney) are very interesting. I'm not sure what the colors signify, but it appears load has been transferred forward to the area around the motor. If the chassis fails forward of the back plate, the driver will be on a ride with 90% of the mass of the car. Lots of questions and no response from NHRA on how to construct a FC chassis for 2008. Opinions?
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Old 12-02-2007, 08:56 AM
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no response from NHRA on how to construct a FC chassis for 2008. Opinions?
Dan Olson has talked to several F/C owners about planned changes during the last month.
The new SFI spec has been drafted, and is currently being reviewed by several parties. The new T/F spec was worked on for the last 9 months is just now released,and will be mandatory in April 08. The F/C "revision" spec has a planed release still this year? (3wks)
From what a couple of owners told me ,it looks like many long days & nights for chassis builders. Used cars for TAFC & NFC at a reduced rate for sure!
If the .095 wall story is true, many years of clutch data will hit the crapper !
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