Are you saying someone might actually use traction control? Yikes! How much would you be willing to bet they aren't already doing it? Can't say for sure, but one easy way to police it is...to allow it. Hey, it's current technology and it's another piece of the tune up.

I know when the TC light comes on in my car it SLOWS DOWN!

Let 'em rip.

RG

PS, One of the early concerns was only a handfull of people would be able to get the latest in computer technology and programs. This stuff has been around so long now, I doubt that would be the case now.

I would think that the NHRA would appreciate comments regarding the future since many at the top wonder what to do next as far as fans go. They know what they would like to accomplish in terms of $$ and growth but suggestions like this might go a long way.

I said in another thread that the NHRA membership in 1990 was 80,000. Today, it's still 80,000. Put some current and new stuff out there that will bring new blood out of the woods.

I sit and watch the sport compact series on TV just to see who Brad Personett will run against, or if he will run at all. That car is very impressive and probably more so in person. Young-uns looking to buy turbo Mazdas and Civics flock around that thing to see what it's all about hoping to get ideas for their ride.

Gotta love it.

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That would be a good start!

Randy:

That has got to be one of the best idea's I have heard on how to TRULY Increase the Membership base at NHRA!!!

The Pro Stock Class, was (from what I've been told) the TRUE FACTORY WARS! The Concept of RACE EM ON SUNDAY, BUY EM ON MONDAY, worked very well, especially during the late 60's with the Musclecar Wars between Dodge Chevy and Ford. Changing the Pro Stock class to market the newest in Technology would, I believe also increase FACTORY REPRESENTATION and Bring in MORE FACTORY $$$$'S. That being said, with NHRA Pulling the plug on the IMPORT SERIES, what does that tell you about their VISION????

I also believe that it's time to bring in the younger crowd. This Younger Demographic are also, (Unfortunatly but true) responcible for the majority of the Illegal Street Racing done in the US! I think changing the Pro Stock Class to these type of cars...could help bring kids off the street and onto the track!

Great Idea Randy I'd support it!

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RG, Haven't you heard about the excessive heat that the unleaded
fuel makes in the Nascrap cars? No thanks!

Sorry! My last post was too Negative!!! Yes on Fuel Injection and whatever else to modernize the class. Please forgive, I race a 64 Thunderbolt
Ford and I am WJ's age, but I still love drag racing after 47 years of it. BK

This subject's come up several times in the last few years here. The turbo idea is cool but I think it's unrealistic.

I'd like to see PS go to roughly PST engine sizes and allow EFI. You'd then have the possibility of seeing motors within reach of factory-floor dimensions. LS, Hemi, and Ford OHC motors would all be eligible. Imagine having Mustangs vs. Camaros vs. Challengers vs. GTO's with factory size motors, who'd a thunk it?

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I can't remember the sanctioning body, I am not too sure if they are still in existence. At any rate, it was a short oval racing series. They allowed EFI. When you came into the gate, you were asked what EFI manufacturer you were using for the race. Then you were giving the LCU from the sanctioning body. It worked out quite well. The teams put in there own fuel maps and raced.

Randy you can't just open up the flood gates. There would be four to six cars at a race. You have no idea how R&D expenses can go wild on EFI systems. I know carbs aren't cheap either. I am Pro-EFI, I just think there would need to be some regulation. Bruce Allen's brother works at McLaren. They have injectors that cost like a grand a pop!!!.

I worked with Lingenfelter on his turbo import. It was pretty bad ass. I never get a chance to go to the stands while the imports are running their exhibition runs at national events. How are they received?

On the fuel front, I say go to alcohol in PS!!!

RG,
You must be bored playing golf or the car is all ready for next year. Leave those pooooor P/S kids alone. They already have 2 competitive teams in the class.

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Probably pail in comparison to the heat the EPA could make for the NHRA. It would be a lot better for all concerned to be proactive rather than reactive. Some day, if the environmentalists decided to make motorsports their next target, it would be nice if the NHRA could step up and say "We're concerned, too. That's why we switched our pro cars to unleaded fuel back in 2009 (or whatever)."

The writing is on the wall with all the global warming stuff being pushed down our throats (I think it's crap, but that's another topic for another board). All we need is some do-gooder deciding that NHRA is poisoning our kids when Warren Johnson warms his car up in the pits because he runs leaded fuel. Like NASCAR did, it might become necessary some day to head them off at the pass before they get the bright idea that we are an unnecessary polluter.

After deciding WJ is killing the kids they may decide the yellow cloud around Tony's car is, too, with that stinky nitromethane. Don't be so sure it can't or won't happen. In California we can't buy the good brake cleaners anymore along with literally hundreds of other chemicals. The stuff we get works about as well as Pledge or Endust. Try buying good automotive paint, solvent or any of that stuff here.

I saw Nancy Pelosy, Diane Feinstein and a few of their pals in an interview on TV last week that got me kinda scared. They were talking about Algore's fictional environmental extreme movie and about how the good ol' Peoples Republic of Kalifornia is on the cutting edge of enviro-wackism making the right laws and reg's to eliminate global warming...and they said that the rest of the Country is going to follow their lead.

With TV coverage of tire smoking burn-outs, yellow clouds in the pits during warm-ups and huge engine fires at the finish line you would have to be naive to NOT think that some day there will be AQMD test equipment set up in the pits to find out how big our carbon footprint is. Shoot, they set up equipment right down the street from my house to monitor the cars as they drive by. And I only live about 30 minutes from the Fairplex at Pomona.

Many may poo-poo the thought, but reality might be just around the corner. I certainly hope not.

Some have suggested a three year implimentation period. This would give teams, engine suppliers and tuners time to blend in new stuff rather than a drop dead date of something like January 1, 2008.

Hey, I hate the idea as much as anyone. I also hate the idea of the government telling us what we can and can not race. If you think it can't happen, I've got a case of California approved brake cleaner I'll sell you...cheap.

RG

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Not bored, it's the off season.

Time to discuss the future. So we can have one.

RG

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I'm all for the growth of the sport and I can understand going the EFI route for the cars and exploring other options. But 80% of the reason I go to a national event is to see pro stock and if they would make the cars look like an import event(that no body watches now) i honestly wouldnt go anymore. no interest in seeing that garbage. I like seeing what a NA motor can do over some small motor turbo car can do. just my $.02

Good thoughts Randy. (and I'm glad YOU posted the topic because any "keyboard racer" <like me> may well have been shouted down).

This sport hat GOT to attract a new generation of hard-core enthusiasts. I don't think it has to have jello-wrestling or bikini contests to bring young(er) people either.

After having lived through the 70's factory prostock wars it was a good time. With the coming of the factory pony cars it seems it would be a good time to go back to the factory and say we want to have a class where we can show case new cars with equipment made today and that will help us and you.

Engine could be limited to 427 [7 liters : )], Pony car bodies, blowers or turbos with restrictions, EFI with the afore mentioned injector flow rate limits and you should be able to get performance equal to or better than today with a product that a version of it could be sold today.....

With the big changeover coming [hd] now would be a good time to set this deal up and give a date when it would start...

I know people talk about money but new cars are built all the time and what do you think it cost for N/A motors of today??? Same money but differnet project.

Just might bring in the younger crowd of racers. BTW: There is an entire group of people out there racing OTHER series that know how to do this already. Imagine if they found out they could race in the BIG leagues witht he same sort of combination they know now????

Just thinking out loud.

jim

Randy,

How about a ADRL class for 4 & 6 (V or str) turbo, EFI, tube car with a weight break of 2150 for 4 cyl and 2350 for 6 cyl using stock blocks. Engine must match the body style using any trans combo you want. Heads up racing.

Simple rules. Car must weight according to it engine and you can make the motor any CI you want.

While a catagory like Personett's car would make sense, I think a Turbo Pro stock class would get boring as hell! Race cars are supposed to loud, not quiet! BTW, how does Nascar still bring out Millions of fans since you can't buy any Toyota's with 360 V8's?

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