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Old 10-29-2007, 05:33 PM
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What's with the *** where a s s is supposed to be. A new spell check?
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Old 10-29-2007, 05:39 PM
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Funny, NHRA can't afford to put up simple red and green lights at the scales but one of the NHRA senior staff can afford to buy a Bentley.
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:33 PM
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Funny, NHRA can't afford to put up simple red and green lights at the scales but one of the NHRA senior staff can afford to buy a Bentley.
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Not likely they'll drive it to the track though, sure to get keyed..............
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:45 PM
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Funny, NHRA can't afford to put up simple red and green lights at the scales but one of the NHRA senior staff can afford to buy a Bentley.
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WHO!!! CARES!!! If I had the money I'd buy one too!!! Just stop and weigh the damn car, if you're not sure then you probably need to weigh!!!
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:47 PM
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FWIW, I usually just sit back and read many of the threads on here, but this one is unreal and I need to comment. It is NOT the scale crew's responsibility to wave the racer in, it is yours after a winning run. There shouldn't be a racer out there that doesn't know this, and it should be automatic. I've NEVER seen a winning car get waved past the scales, only waived past fuel check for one reason or another. And this garbage about red and green lights, please! If you want that, go drive in the city.
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:50 PM
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No.... easiest solution is weigh them all.. win or loose.. advance or not in quailifing...

Sorry but to me it made some of the funniest tv i have ever seen in a while....lol i kept waiting to hear one of the Shoes scream "we skipped the scales before and you didn't mind .. why now?".. GL trying to look like a REAL official was pretty funny too..... cracked me up they let the tv cameras catch it all.... GL.. looked at it a couple times and seemed to think i wished you guys weren't here...lol....

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Old 10-29-2007, 06:56 PM
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... it is yours after a winning run. There shouldn't be a racer out there that doesn't know this, and it should be automatic. ...
Amen!

I'm a lowly sportsman racer and I know this. When I was running Super Gas they only weighed Super Gas at random. But I figured I didn't want there to being any question so I used to always pull across the scales if I won first round.

I used to always get some funny looks from the scale crew and some would even ask what I was doing. When I told them, they'd look at the readout and say, "okay" and wave me goodbye.
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Old 10-29-2007, 07:11 PM
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I am not going to form an opinion either way on this topic because my opinion doesn't matter, but I DO have a opinion to bring up to all of the people that have commented on how Tony should "grow up" and move on...

This incident happened yesterday...only 24 hours ago...

If someone took $100,000 out of YOUR pocket, whether or not you deserved it, can you honestly tell me that you wouldn't be absoleutely pi$$ed off and almost to the point where your anger was more in control of you than you are of it?

Whether or not you were angry with the NHRA because you feel you were wronged, angry at yourself for screwing up, or a combination of both because you screwed up and they enforced it against you and not to anyone else...You'd be ready to spit nails...

The point is, anyone on this board that can relate to what it is like to have $100,000 taken away from you and wouldn't be absolutely berzerk about it is 100% FULL OF Sh!T!
That's a LOT of money...

Now, some of you might think it isn't because relative to the amount of money that family has, its peanuts...No way...its STILL $100,000....Here is a pretty good example:

If you are a mechanic making $40,000/yr. at work, and you worked really hard to get a car fixed in time for a customer, and then just because you forgot to show that customer the broken parts that you replaced, as you usually do, so that they knew that the $1500 repair bill was legit, you then got fined $1500 from your salary, tell me you wouldn't quit your job after telling your boss what hole to stick the invoice in...

But, even though it may have been a stupid reason to get docked the $1500 out of your pay, you were still in the wrong, right? You should have saved those parts to show the customer...

Go to the scales after each run...ESPECIALLY with that much money on the line...this way, they can't "knitpick" at you for something so "stupid."
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Old 10-29-2007, 07:44 PM
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This is the biggest case of A S S U M E both parties are wrong PERIOD!

NHRA AND TONY BOTH need to accept responsibility here.

NHRA A S S U M E 's that everyone will abide bye the "RULE" you have to weigh after each wining/improving run, but on occasion will wave them by.

TONY A S S U M E 's that since no one was at the scales to stop him that its ok to just pass, and if they want us to weigh then they will say something.

I think they both looked like a s s 's that day.


I don't like both parties involved and would think this way if it was any other driver.
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Old 10-29-2007, 08:46 PM
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I am not going to form an opinion either way on this topic because my opinion doesn't matter, but I DO have a opinion to bring up to all of the people that have commented on how Tony should "grow up" and move on...

This incident happened yesterday...only 24 hours ago...

If someone took $100,000 out of YOUR pocket, whether or not you deserved it, can you honestly tell me that you wouldn't be absoleutely pi$$ed off and almost to the point where your anger was more in control of you than you are of it?

Whether or not you were angry with the NHRA because you feel you were wronged, angry at yourself for screwing up, or a combination of both because you screwed up and they enforced it against you and not to anyone else...You'd be ready to spit nails...

The point is, anyone on this board that can relate to what it is like to have $100,000 taken away from you and wouldn't be absolutely berzerk about it is 100% FULL OF Sh!T!
That's a LOT of money...

Now, some of you might think it isn't because relative to the amount of money that family has, its peanuts...No way...its STILL $100,000....Here is a pretty good example:

If you are a mechanic making $40,000/yr. at work, and you worked really hard to get a car fixed in time for a customer, and then just because you forgot to show that customer the broken parts that you replaced, as you usually do, so that they knew that the $1500 repair bill was legit, you then got fined $1500 from your salary, tell me you wouldn't quit your job after telling your boss what hole to stick the invoice in...

But, even though it may have been a stupid reason to get docked the $1500 out of your pay, you were still in the wrong, right? You should have saved those parts to show the customer...

Go to the scales after each run...ESPECIALLY with that much money on the line...this way, they can't "knitpick" at you for something so "stupid."

For the record (and not a shot a you personally Jay)...
It cost him the "chance" at $100,000, which I'm sure in his eyes was as good as already won, the only problem is he would have had to get past Hot Rod, which is never a given.

It definitely cost him $9,000 (he got $6,000 for the semis, and would have at least won the $15,000 for runner-up).

Tony said in the 1320 video "What, we should just lose a hundred grand?" like it was a given they were going to win it. AJ is amazing, and Tony is a good driver, but that is quite a bit of arrogance..
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Old 10-29-2007, 09:10 PM
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I am not going to form an opinion either way on this topic because my opinion doesn't matter, but I DO have a opinion to bring up to all of the people that have commented on how Tony should "grow up" and move on...
Jay, this isn't the first time For DSR. Remember last year when he DIDN'T have to obey the shut down command from Rick? He should have been disqualified and Doug would have won the championship.

I have my opinion. These folks (DSR) don't think they have to play by the same rules the rest of us do. I'm glad the NHRA finally stood up to them. They should have done it last year. That $20,000 fine last year was a joke. He should have been disqualified like the rest of us would have been.
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Old 10-30-2007, 01:07 AM
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Funny, NHRA can't afford to put up simple red and green lights at the scales but one of the NHRA senior staff can afford to buy a Bentley.
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The lights at scales are a track set up. Not all NHRA National Event tracks have them, so if you want to point a finger at how money is spent by whom, then your finger should be pointed at the track owner, but since this has absolutely nothing to do with who has/makes money, your point is moot.

Since Professional racers know that they have to meet minimum weight requirements to advance to the next round after winning a round in eliminations, and the only way to show they meet that requirement is to weigh the car after the round, having a light system at the scales is also a moot point.

A light system might help a tow vehicle driver properly do his or her job, but I'd think anyone doing that job should have been instructed to only bypass scales if waved past scales by the tech people at the scales.
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Old 10-30-2007, 01:26 AM
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This whole thing, as I see it, is about taking personal responsibility for your actions. I guess that stuff was last done in previous generations since everything seems to be someone else's fault nowadays.

It's almost funny how much a generation or two can change common sense into pending litigation or finger pointing instead of taking your own lumps.

If I had been driving a car for my father's team and bypassed the scales, I can guarantee every bit of his ranting wouldn't have been directed at me rather than at some NHRA official in an effort to cover my sorry behind. I can also guarantee he would've concluded with something like "That's Life Kid."

I've also learned that everything that goes wrong doesn't stem from a culprit. There are actually lots of times where circumstance is to blame rather than one party.

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Old 10-30-2007, 08:27 AM
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When I saw the cameras shooting the disagreement between Don Schumacher and Graham Light, all I could think of was a call coming from Dallas for Graham Light to star in the next Southwest Airlines commercial...

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Now that is freakin hillarious
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