This is a discussion on Schumacher DQ?? within the NHRA forum, part of the Pit Area category; A simple solution to this problem is to weigh ALL cars if they win a round or improve their ET. ...
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A simple solution to this problem is to weigh ALL cars if they win a round or improve their ET. The selective weighing of cars is a bunch of BS.
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Correct me if I'm wrong here but, for a round win, do they not collect 20 points? Did Shoe get 20 points for a round win then get them taken away too? Also, did not improve on their ET since they had run a .48 before. I think a case can be made both ways, the rules are not that clear.
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Man get over it! I know some of the Kalitta camp, after the race last year I went to go down and see them, all they could say is "Alan's the man" Yes they were heart broken, but they didn't piss and moan like you do nearly a year on, here let me build a bridge, so you can get over it geeezus! |
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Sorry but to me it made some of the funniest tv i have ever seen in a while....lol i kept waiting to hear one of the Shoes scream "we skipped the scales before and you didn't mind .. why now?".. GL trying to look like a REAL official was pretty funny too..... cracked me up they let the tv cameras catch it all.... GL.. looked at it a couple times and seemed to think i wished you guys weren't here...lol.... Billy |
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Sadly I lost my favourite racer back in 96. I follow the Army car because of Alan Johnson. I happen to like the Kalitta team also, and had they have won it last year, believe me I would have been = as happy! I don't have a real favourite out there other then AJ and my buddy Troy Buff, who will return soon! Rick's BS on the start line was half assed! |
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micheal i cant disagree, alan johnson is THE MAN! the best period. but we can see each others point. no need for us to go back and forth, and yes r.i.p blaine. enjoy the race today. jeff.
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Weighing everyone, both winners and losers is not practical. The traffic jam is huge down there now at times. NHRA's mandate for quicker turn-arounds just won't allow it.
This rule has been in place since the 70's I believe, and the 3-time Top Fuel Champ's team can't figure this out? Just because they screwed up doesn't mean the rule needs to be changed. We've lived without a redlight/greenlight all these many years; they don't need one now. The only thing that surprises me is that there appeared to be only one person working the scales. And he was inside the booth. At Pomona, there are normally 5+ down there (under E-Z ups). Simple fix is for an official to be stationed in front of the scales either waving the tow vehicle by or instructing them to come in. I've seen that many times towing back over the years, at least at Pomona. |
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I agree Jeff. And you too, I just wish the race would hurry and start, that first RD is going to be awesome! |
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First of all let me state that I am not taking sides on this matter. I am just observing.
I see here a lot of quotes that partly and in some cases don't apply in this situation. That being said, someone needs to point out the exact page number and paragraph in the CURRENT NHRA rule book that incriminates Shumacher for the action he took following this specific run. I have both the current rule book and the current NHRA Competition Policies and Procedures Manual, 2007 Professional Edition and I can tell you this subject is not specifically addressed in the manner it is being portrayed. Here is some food for thought using just one example: In TAD where you have specifically a weight per cubic inch specification the class discription states, and I quote "Cars are weighed at conclusion of run, including driver." In T/F it states "Minimum weight at conclusion of run: 2,250 pounds, including driver." I personally have been waved by the scales and the fuel check station after a winning run many times over the years. This was totally a judgement call, and a damn poor one at that, which determined who would proceed to the next round. Someone needs to point out where in the rule book there is a provision that reinstates the opponent if the winning car either bypasses the scale OR fails to meet the minimum weight requirement. IF and I repeat a big IF, Shumacher was in violation of the rule(s), Fuller should have singled for the win. But that wouldn't have made for a good show right? Fire away! |
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After reading this I'm even more convinced that NHRA has their heads up their asses and enforces rules selectively.
Torco Racing Fuel's Competition Plus.com - Drag Racing's Internet Magazine - SCHUMACHER'S DISQUALIFICATION It's pretty obvious that Tony has won a lot of races. That means he should be weighed four times a day (every time he wins a round) according to what NHRA is saying now. Tony says he's never been weighed four times in one day!
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I'm suprised no-one has mentioned Tony's comments while in the Tower. "You want the countdown? THIS is the countdown! They can pick whoever they want to win!" Guess they didnt pick you this time Tony....
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