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Old 10-25-2007, 07:01 PM
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Re: I bet changes will be coming for next year.

The chassis just need a new backhalf to get rid of the junk heat treated tubing thats behind the mid plate.
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Old 10-25-2007, 07:15 PM
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Re: I bet changes will be coming for next year.

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The chassis spec is fine. It's an incorrect interpretation of the word "equivilant" that has caused a problem.
isn't it odd that someone who is allowed to make an "interpretation" of the rule is on the board that writes the rules. would it be fair if a police officer robbed a store but got off because HE said the gun wasn't loaded and HE was just kidding.
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Old 10-25-2007, 07:39 PM
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Re: I bet changes will be coming for next year.

Remember that it was SFI who chose not to accept any advice or guidance on the issue from other chassis builders. When the fox has his own set of keys made for the hen house, there is bound to be some problems.

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Old 10-25-2007, 08:15 PM
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Re: I bet changes will be coming for next year.

Randy G- you've seen my personal notes to you on some of this and we've known each other for about 25 years and I respect your intellect and philosophy on Drag Racing BUT

I have to take exception to your statement that the Funny Car Spec is "FINE"

No it is NOT and it needs a complete study as the Larue and Davis studies have done with Top Fuel.

The hardened tubing is, of course, a GROSS mistake, but the forces being applied today are no way totally understood yet in either nitro category and you TAFC guys may be closer to the danger zone than you think.

The hardened tubing fiasco should be a wakeup call to COMPLETE REFORM of the fueler specs. Done by people other than a Community College educated builder (as am I) but rather with the vast technical resources that today we have available.

Good to see the almost world's best T-Shirt printer posting-Hi. Kevin!

Off my soapbox!

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Old 10-25-2007, 08:22 PM
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Re: I bet changes will be coming for next year.

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Most popular phone call of late????

-Uh, hello, is this XYZ chassis shop?
*Yes it is, how can I help you?
-I would like to trade in my heat treated chassis for a new normallized unit if I may. What's the difference going to cost me?
*Click
I think there will be a whole new class of underpowered, 6.90 cars that will take that phone call, as long as they are discussing dimes and not dollars...
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Old 10-25-2007, 09:49 PM
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Re: I bet changes will be coming for next year.

Norm,
What do mean almost? Has my wife been misleading my ego again. It's great to hear you're still around with the rest of us old guys. I hope everything is well. Back to business......A good friend and chassis builder stated that "It's all geometry and keeping in mind that 1 + 1 will always = 2" Webster's version, 1 a: a branch of mathematics that deals with the measurement, properties, and relationships of points, lines, angles, surfaces, and solids; broadly. I know that you've welded your fair share of tubing into masterpieces. Some of which are still tearing up dragstrips on a regular basis. Keep in touch.

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Old 10-26-2007, 02:52 AM
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Re: I bet changes will be coming for next year.

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Randy G- you've seen my personal notes to you on some of this and we've known each other for about 25 years and I respect your intellect and philosophy on Drag Racing BUT

I have to take exception to your statement that the Funny Car Spec is "FINE"

No it is NOT and it needs a complete study as the Larue and Davis studies have done with Top Fuel.

The hardened tubing is, of course, a GROSS mistake, but the forces being applied today are no way totally understood yet in either nitro category and you TAFC guys may be closer to the danger zone than you think.

The hardened tubing fiasco should be a wakeup call to COMPLETE REFORM of the fueler specs. Done by people other than a Community College educated builder (as am I) but rather with the vast technical resources that today we have available.

Good to see the almost world's best T-Shirt printer posting-Hi. Kevin!

Off my soapbox!

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Norm:

Always glad to see when someone of your ability chimes in, even though Top Gas did go with an index as I recommended back when OCIR was still open. LOL.

Not long after that I jumped ship and built my first TA/FC because I didn't like index racing.

Hight's current Plueger car should be captured in a picture and posted in the SFI manual as the definition of the current SFI chassis spec built literally, not "equivelant to."

We'll see how he does, but Plueger's cars are not having any issues. Neither are Grant Downing's CSK fleet of cars. Both are very similar to each other.

I stand by my statement that the current SFI spec taken literally is fine.

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Old 10-26-2007, 03:05 AM
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Re: I bet changes will be coming for next year.

I'm up way too late but with good company, I see?
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Old 10-26-2007, 03:13 PM
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Re: I bet changes will be coming for next year.

Since all 4 Force cars are competing this weekend do you think they have made even more changes to the other 3 cars?
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Old 10-26-2007, 07:50 PM
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Re: I bet changes will be coming for next year.

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Since all 4 Force cars are competing this weekend do you think they have made even more changes to the other 3 cars?
I would venture to guess that whatever changes they made met with the approval of John. They're not going to strap another driver in an accident looking for a place to happen. It would be interesting to hear if anyone at Victory has slept this week.

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Old 10-27-2007, 03:43 AM
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I would venture to guess that whatever changes they made met with the approval of John. They're not going to strap another driver in an accident looking for a place to happen. It would be interesting to hear if anyone at Victory has slept this week.

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Especially since they mounted "two" bodies on the Plueger chassis.
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Old 10-27-2007, 11:56 AM
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Re: I bet changes will be coming for next year.

RG,
Don't ya just love a good old fashion THRASH to get the car ready?

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