Did Force and KB Crash?

#**106** 09-23-2007, 05:14 PM

boys boys boys.....play nicely

#**107** 09-23-2007, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by David Merricks

Exactly. By listening to the webcast, I was led to believe that KB crossed the centerline and got into John.

If you watch the video, it would appear that when KB hit the timing blocks, one of them got into John's car. Could that have caused the tire to blow? Not assuming anything or jumping to any more conclusions, just wondering if that is what I am seeing.

That's what it looked like *to me* when I stop framed the video, but that is purely speculation by a non-driver/crew, so take it with a grain of salt.

Whatever happened, it was NASTY and a miracle John and Kenny are still alive. I don't personally feel there is any one thing that caused it, just a freak accident.

#**108** 09-23-2007, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Veskovich

Man chill out!

I was a little up on the chip earlier with people blaming Kenny. I am relaxed now and apologize for calling out those who blamed Kenny without seeing the footage. Everyone should focus on John's condition and pray for him.

#**109** 09-23-2007, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Minick

i've watched the video about 100 times now and the more i watch it the more i tend to think that the clutch came out of John's car.....the blocks/Kenny had nothing to do with this at all other then they were simply there

I dismissed the clutch due to the mandated Ti cans and havent seen a
Ti can failure but not to say it could not happen.

#**110** 09-23-2007, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg Moon

It looks like the cone hit either the tire or back end of the body and it just exploded.

In slow motion it looks like the tire blows or the body breaks apart at the same time it is hit with timing cone. But we should all wait for the results to come from Team Force.

#**111** 09-23-2007, 05:26 PM

Get will soon John, my thoughts and prayers are with you, your family, and everyone associated with JFR. This year has been a really bad nightmare for JFR. Hopefully by the time the show airs thay will have some idea of what caused it.

#**112** 09-23-2007, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dennis Fermano

In slow motion it looks like the tire blows or the body breaks apart at the same time it is hit with timing cone. But we should all wait for the results to come from Team Force.

Look again both tires look to be in tact just my observation

#**113** 09-23-2007, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean Barnes

Look again both tires look to be in tact

which is what leads to me to believe the clutch came out. I know what you mean about the TI bell housing but it's the only thing that seems to make sense, rather then the chassis just breaking in half at the spot it did

#**114** 09-23-2007, 05:31 PM

Oh my... who gives a hoot why. It's drag racing; it's what these highly professional people do for a living and there is no blame, ever. If it was so easy...

What a dreadful year it's been.

Get well soon John.

#**115** 09-23-2007, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Minick

which is what leads to me to believe the clutch came out. I know what you mean about the TI bell housing but it's the only thing that seems to make sense, rather then the chassis just breaking in half at the spot it did

the Mckinney TF chassis had there issue they all had to have the new pipe installed and the heat treating,

JFR is running Mckinney FC chassis maybe there may be a new stress point problem? I do not know it the FC chassis had to go thru the simular things that we had to do with the TF chassis?

#**116** 09-23-2007, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Patti Barrett

Oh my... who gives a hoot why. It's drag racing; it's what these highly professional people do for a living and there is no blame, ever. If it was so easy...

What a dreadful year it's been.

Get well soon John.

What you mean there's no blame??? People get blamed all the time at a racetrack or in the middle of the race!! Give me a break!!

#**117** 09-23-2007, 05:36 PM

The tread can come off the tire, or a portion of it, and yet the tire can still look good, ie still holds air (I have seen it many time with all sorts of tires), to me it looks like the tread, or part of it could have come off, it doen't have to loose much of the tread section at 300+ mph to cause a catastrophy like John's.

#**118** 09-23-2007, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Patti Barrett

Oh my... who gives a hoot why. It's drag racing; it's what these highly professional people do for a living and there is no blame, ever. If it was so easy...

What a dreadful year it's been.

Get well soon John.

AS a member of a TFD team and moving over to a FC Team I would DAMN sure like to know what was the cause if a major chassis failure.

If it was so easy......what?

#**119** 09-23-2007, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean Barnes

the Mckinney TF chassis had there issue they all had to have the new pipe installed and the heat treating,

JFR is running Mckinney FC chassis maybe there may be a new stress point problem? I do not know it the FC chassis had to go thru the simular things that we had to do with the TF chassis?

after erics accident, part of the new safety features they came up with was strengthening all the frame rails from the motor plate back to the cockpit by adding more of them and using thicker tubing

#**120** 09-23-2007, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Minick

after erics accident, part of the new safety features they came up with was strengthening all the frame rails from the motor plate back to the cockpit by adding more of them and using thicker tubing

thanks for the info Mike

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