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tf fords ?
How will Forces in house Ford engines be different than what Pat Austin was working on ?
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09-21-2007, 03:05 PM
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Re: tf fords ?
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How will Forces in house Ford engines be different than what Pat Austin was working on ?
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That, my friend, is the RIGHT question.............
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09-21-2007, 05:49 PM
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Re: tf fords ?
Alan, I never get tired of your avatar......Buster would never have put up with that crap!
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09-21-2007, 05:59 PM
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Re: tf fords ?
It will have the Hemi (MOPAR, Not Boss) bore spacing and geometry...probably even the head bolt pattern. Not a derivative of any past Ford production V-8...a new design strictly for nitro/alky racing. Per the rules it will share many of the engineering traits of the current Hemi motors.
The Austin's motor is an evolved version of the Boss 429 "semi-hemi" motor.
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09-21-2007, 07:08 PM
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Re: tf fords ?
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Originally Posted by Wes Tarkington
It will have the Hemi (MOPAR, Not Boss) bore spacing and geometry...probably even the head bolt pattern. Not a derivative of any past Ford production V-8...a new design strictly for nitro/alky racing. Per the rules it will share many of the engineering traits of the current Hemi motors.
The Austin's motor is an evolved version of the Boss 429 "semi-hemi" motor.
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So basically it's as much a Ford as the current engines are Mopars. 
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09-21-2007, 07:15 PM
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Re: tf fords ?
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Originally Posted by Mike Parente
So basically it's as much a Ford as the current engines are Mopars. 
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Not quite. I could be wrong, but I think you can still buy the Mopar block from Chrysler. I know you could just a few years ago.
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09-21-2007, 07:30 PM
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Re: tf fords ?
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Originally Posted by Bob Orme
Not quite. I could be wrong, but I think you can still buy the Mopar block from Chrysler. I know you could just a few years ago.
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If your talking about the aluminum fuel engine block, you can buy it from Mopar but its not theirs, its aftermarket. I don't know whose it is now, but they used to be Keith Black's.
As far as the "Ford" motor, it will just be a massaged version of the Mopar design that says Ford on it.
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09-21-2007, 10:15 PM
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Re: tf fords ?
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Originally Posted by Ian Sweeney
If your talking about the aluminum fuel engine block, you can buy it from Mopar but its not theirs, its aftermarket. I don't know whose it is now, but they used to be Keith Black's.
As far as the "Ford" motor, it will just be a massaged version of the Mopar design that says Ford on it.
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and it's not really what JFR wants to do... but fuel specs limit it to the elephant design... they wanted to move bore spacing, cam to crank centers, valve spacing and angle... I love an unlimited class were everything is spec... maybe NHRA should just issue engines thursday afternoon... level the playing field, you know....
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09-21-2007, 10:46 PM
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Re: tf fords ?
I'm really confused! I thought fuel motor rules had frozen new technology.
If this is correct, is JFR spending a huge amount of money to produce a clone of the current block and heads in order to have a Ford logo machined on the parts? I'd also be very interested to see if someone can provide a Mopar part number for a fuel motor block!
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09-21-2007, 11:25 PM
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Re: tf fords ?
Mopar P/N P3690433 order yours today.
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09-22-2007, 03:25 AM
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Nice one Chris...lol
Bottom line you can produce a block and put any name you want on it as long as it has the same specs as the chys. based block that is currently being used as Wes stated the geom. and bore spacing has been mandated by NHRA.
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09-22-2007, 09:30 AM
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Re: tf fords ?
JF better watch out the "cost per run" will probably twice as much as a Mopar motor you know what they say about Fords "fixed or repaired daily" LOL.
This is a light-heart jab in case no one as a sense of humor. 
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09-22-2007, 10:04 AM
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Re: tf fords ?
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Originally Posted by Samuel Davidowicz
JF better watch out the "cost per run" will probably twice as much as a Mopar motor you know what they say about Fords "fixed or repaired daily" LOL.
This is a light-heart jab in case no one as a sense of humor. 
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09-22-2007, 10:31 AM
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09-22-2007, 11:36 AM
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Re: tf fords ?
It won't cost JFR anything as Ford is paying for it. Wheter it is a clone or not is irrelevent to Ford as it gives them bragging rights, the average fan wouldn't know or care about the fact that it's basically a copy.
Didn't the Austins have a Hemi block with OLDS cast on the front? That didn't produce much of an uproar.
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