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07-31-2006, 07:57 PM
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Dude, did you just say "lemon chiffon"?
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LMAO! I asked the same question when I read that. Did he just say lemon chiffon?
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08-14-2006, 10:46 AM
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Guess the ol' computer is still down
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08-14-2006, 12:39 PM
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I add my name to the list requesting a color change. Hitting CTRL-A does change everything on the page to aqua on white, so I can read things a lot easier that way, but that should not be necessary in order to make the text clearly visible. Gray on black is okay for West Point uniforms, sucks as a message board color scheme.
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08-14-2006, 04:20 PM
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I love it the way it is.......just my opinion
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08-14-2006, 06:31 PM
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You obviously are not reading it on a laptop screen - it's damned near invisible under the best lighting conditions on my laptop screen. Looks fine on the 19-inch screen on my desktop computer.
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08-14-2006, 08:43 PM
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You obviously are not reading it on a laptop screen - it's damned near invisible under the best lighting conditions on my laptop screen.
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ok ya got me there....I usually pull the shades during the day and turn off the lights at night when I'm at the computer.... (insert joke here)
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08-14-2006, 11:32 PM
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Have any of you that are having problems actually tried calibrating your monitors so they display correctly? I'd bet that the ones having problems reading the text have monitors that are adjusted out of whack.
You should be able to see the difference (at least) between X,Y and Z and ideally also A, B and C.
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08-14-2006, 11:52 PM
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Guess the ol' computer is still down 
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Yes I don't have my computer back up and running. Sorry. I hope to find a place to live here soon. Living arrangements have been in limbo here lately.
Thanks for understanding
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08-14-2006, 11:54 PM
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Ain't no such adjustment on laptop screens, sorry.
The big problem is twofold - first of all, light colored text on a black background is hard to read under a wide variety of lighting conditions. Second, grey and black are, by nature, dim colors and tend to blend together into a dim, unreadable image on low-contrast monitors such as laptop screens.
Desktop LCD monitors have higher contrast and more adjustments than laptop screens, which are optimized for battery operation.
In other words, if you are not trying to read this stuff on a laptop screen, you have no idea how illegible it is using the default colors.
This paragraph is default - and very hard to see on a laptop screen.
This paragraph is a contrasting color, though there is nothing wrong with good old black on white for message text - that's why it's the default on the message editing screens - I am just asking for the text display colors to be as readable as the text colors on the message composition and edit screens.
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08-15-2006, 07:01 AM
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Yes I don't have my computer back up and running. Sorry. I hope to find a place to live here soon. Living arrangements have been in limbo here lately.
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Sorry things are in a jumble for you Shannon. Hope they all work out soon.
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08-15-2006, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Larry Sullivan
Ain't no such adjustment on laptop screens, sorry.
The big problem is twofold - first of all, light colored text on a black background is hard to read under a wide variety of lighting conditions. Second, grey and black are, by nature, dim colors and tend to blend together into a dim, unreadable image on low-contrast monitors such as laptop screens.
Desktop LCD monitors have higher contrast and more adjustments than laptop screens, which are optimized for battery operation.
In other words, if you are not trying to read this stuff on a laptop screen, you have no idea how illegible it is using the default colors.
This paragraph is default - and very hard to see on a laptop screen.
This paragraph is a contrasting color, though there is nothing wrong with good old black on white for message text - that's why it's the default on the message editing screens - I am just asking for the text display colors to be as readable as the text colors on the message composition and edit screens.
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I have a big old 21 inch monitor, and the only time the gray on black is somewhat readable and a little easier on the eyes, is when the lights are out.
Even in the 'additonal Options' that are below the reply area, are very had to read... show your signature, automatically parse links in text, etc. The main menu screen, the 'attach files' ..... everything on this board that is gray on black is getting harder & harder to read, as my eyes struggle to read what is there.
If the majority of folks have no problem with this new look, that's ok too. But if I have to make a choice between using my eyes to do work, or trying to read a message board, the choice has already been made for me because of my need to work until I drop dead.
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08-15-2006, 07:11 AM
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Larry,
I use a Toshiba laptop and have no trouble seeing any of the colors. I have not used a desktop so I can't make a comparison. I tried alot of colors when the new Mater started. White and Red were the only two that I didn't get PM's saying they were having a hard time seeing. Now I try to only use those two.
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08-15-2006, 11:18 AM
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Let's be less dramatic about this. There's been a simple fix suggested and surely you could use that for now.
It isn't permanent and you have to do it each time you want to read something. But, until it's the way you want it, you guys could use the suggestion of Ctrl + A. It highlights all text on the screen and makes it black text with a white background.
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08-15-2006, 11:59 AM
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Let's be less dramatic about this. There's been a simple fix suggested and surely you could use that for now.
It isn't permanent and you have to do it each time you want to read something. But, until it's the way you want it, you guys could use the suggestion of Ctrl + A. It highlights all text on the screen and makes it black text with a white background.
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Dramatic?  It is what it is....difficult for a lot of people to read. And that does take a bit of the enjoyment out of visiting a message board even with suggestions of temporary solutions.
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08-15-2006, 12:35 PM
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Dramatic?  It is what it is....difficult for a lot of people to read. And that does take a bit of the enjoyment out of visiting a message board even with suggestions of temporary solutions. 
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the choice has already been made for me because of my need to work until I drop dead.
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Yeah, I'd say that's a bit dramatic. You were given a temporary solution. Can't you use it until Shannon can fix it? I realize it's only a temporary solution, but come on. It's a message board about racing. It's not life or death.
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